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Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

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Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

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I think it's almost unfathomable for us to imagine how far we are from a "traditional" homosapien life. I read a book called "Hunt, Gather, Parent" where they describe the life of multiple 'less developed' societies, and how they spent a large portion of their life interacting with babies, adolescents, older children, pregnant relations. It's a miracle people are still able to reproduce at all given our isolation fro…

I read a comment here years ago saying that in ancient times the average woman would have only a few dozen menstrual cycles in her life. Most the time between puberty and menopause you were either pregnant or breastfeeding. Does the book discuss that too?

Or undernourished.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

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Most of the comments here are implying that there is some environmental change which has caused breastfeeding to become harder or less efficient. The article doesn't seem to say that, though. I didn't see any implication that breastfeeding was better back in prehistory.

It's possible that it's always been hard. Being in a social group large enough that there are other mothers would solve the issue, largely.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

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I think it's almost unfathomable for us to imagine how far we are from a "traditional" homosapien life. I read a book called "Hunt, Gather, Parent" where they describe the life of multiple 'less developed' societies, and how they spent a large portion of their life interacting with babies, adolescents, older children, pregnant relations. It's a miracle people are still able to reproduce at all given our isolation fro…

I have a relative who grew up as the oldest of four children in a very traditional home in a rural setting.

She has had trouble breastfeeding each of her three babies.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

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It's almost like pink capitalism is about doubling the supply of labor in order to decrease price. But I am sure all those companies that are promising to provide support for abortion are doing it out of a commitment to women's rights and not as an exercise to avoid having to deal with maternity leave. After all remember he or she who dies with the most stuff or the biggest 401k wins.

It’s the same thing with paying for freezing their eggs. Corporations are not doing it from the kindness of their hearts or in support of female reproductive rights. It’s not that expensive if the woman is doing such an important job pulling big bucks. It’s human nature to look for ‘deals’. I can’t even…gah. I am not at all worried about the shrinking birth rate and fertility rate. It’s an adjustment that is needed. We have jumped the shark long ago. It’s collateral damage for much needed booming capitalism. So what’s the other option? Starve and live in poverty? I guess the balance is somewhere in the middle and we will get there someday.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

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i was expecting to find something about society-wide chronic stress, lo and behold > And chronic stress has been found to deplete the body of the energy it needs to make milk. lets just say our profit and growth driven society is not structured to nurture humans, neither grown nor newborn.

I'm surprised we're more stressed now than humans from thousands of years ago who somehow managed to produce plenty of breast-milk. They didn't have as much safety from pillaging tribes, hungry animals, they didn't have antibiotics, anesthesia or life-saving surgeries. They didn't have access to a grocery store a short drive away, or a fire department. Can all of the advancements in human QoL above be undone by turni…

Just imo, humans thousands of years ago didn’t have media that informed them instantly of every horrible thing that can, and does, happen. There were also fewer humans (which I find contribute a lot to my own daily stress).

Maybe thousands of years ago humans were just blissfully ignorant of the dangers that existed?

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

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I wish I lived in your fantasy land where a single income household could still work.

It works for some people. Ask yourself why it doesn’t work for you.

There is no right or wrong here. Everyone makes choices that work for them. No point whining about it later.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

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> How is a modern person so much more stressed out? srs? lol. back in the day your concerns were food, warmth and that is about it. now it's social media, covid 19, spy balloons, nuclear war, pronoun war, civil war, market crashes, wealth disparity, climate change/refugees, toxic chemical plumes ... I mean the list goes on and on.

But they question is why does this stress everyone out. In our day-to-day lives you can basically ignore all of it, provided your basic needs are met and you are living in an environment where more of your material needs are being met. So what is it about "news" that causes more actual physical stress than local conditions?

> In our day-to-day lives you can basically ignore all of it

This is true for people who are able to detach from the events of the world, but that is not a universal skill.

Plus a lot of the concerns I listed are not just news you hear about - they are things people are living on a daily basis. Just the other day a guy walked into MSU, about an hour away from me, and killed a bunch of people. For some you can tune that out and carry on with your life. For others, notably people in the community or families who were directly impacted, it's traumatic.

The plume of shit in the air down in Ohio is also about an hour from me. It's not just a news story, farm animals are dying. That is someones livelihood and its indicative that the environment is toxic. That would stress you out, wouldn't it? Should I drink the water? Do I need to move? Can I move? Can I even sell my house now that the local area is toxic?

I think you can stick your head in the sand for a certain amount of time but at some point you need to come up and look around at the world we are creating and become proactive instead of just watching it crumble.

Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

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I think it's almost unfathomable for us to imagine how far we are from a "traditional" homosapien life. I read a book called "Hunt, Gather, Parent" where they describe the life of multiple 'less developed' societies, and how they spent a large portion of their life interacting with babies, adolescents, older children, pregnant relations. It's a miracle people are still able to reproduce at all given our isolation fro…

Reproduction isn't the hard part, from what I can tell! It's everything after the reproduction occurs that is tough.

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Re: Many women struggle to breastfeed. Scientists are starting to ask why

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I think it's almost unfathomable for us to imagine how far we are from a "traditional" homosapien life. I read a book called "Hunt, Gather, Parent" where they describe the life of multiple 'less developed' societies, and how they spent a large portion of their life interacting with babies, adolescents, older children, pregnant relations. It's a miracle people are still able to reproduce at all given our isolation fro…

Reproduction isn't the hard part, from what I can tell! It's everything after the reproduction occurs that is tough.

I'm not so sure about that. Sperm counts are dropping: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/human-sperm-counts...
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