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Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#31

They're the guys who built it. It's not like he's demoing something that they spent 4 days building. It's been in dev for 4 years. Everyone knows Google is primarily a BD play right now. The engineering there is in the "we'll make the button blue by next quarter" quality. But BD plays build quite good moat. So I think they'll be fine.

Could you explain what you mean by Google being a “BD play”? I’m not familiar with that term.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#32
post #9

Here's the weird thing though, as discussed yesterday [1], the Microsoft demo was totally broken as well. In the end, everyone is looking for a big platform shift (next MOBILE!!!) and hype getting ahead of reality. When we look back in 3 months we will wonder why we thought LLM/GPT type queries will replace search in all forms. https://dkb.blog/p/bing-ai-cant-be-trusted

Nothing weird about it. It's called first mover's advantage. Wanna make electric cars, you have to beat Tesla. No matter how nice your car is. If your range is worse. Booo. If your self driving is equivalent or worse, Boo. Whatever Tesla has done, you must be better at. You need better design, cheaper price, better range, better reliability else no one would notice you.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#33
post #9

Here's the weird thing though, as discussed yesterday [1], the Microsoft demo was totally broken as well. In the end, everyone is looking for a big platform shift (next MOBILE!!!) and hype getting ahead of reality. When we look back in 3 months we will wonder why we thought LLM/GPT type queries will replace search in all forms. https://dkb.blog/p/bing-ai-cant-be-trusted

Microsoft can botch their search without tanking the company. Google cannot.

Adtech is their main business. The quality of search suggests that it became less important to them.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#34
post #22

Whatever happened to move fast and break things? Who cares if it wasn't perfect in the first iteration. It was a shot across ChatGPTs bow, and pleased the shareholders.

Move fast and break things don't apply if your "break things" cooks the golden goose

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#35
post #22

Whatever happened to move fast and break things? Who cares if it wasn't perfect in the first iteration. It was a shot across ChatGPTs bow, and pleased the shareholders.

I don’t think any Google shareholders are happy with the stock price after their announcement.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#38
post #2

Has sundar been a good CEO otherwise?

He has brought no innovation and his fearfulness has ground Google down to a halt. What new successful products has arrived during his tenure? All he did was not fuck up. He's lucky because the entire market has increased, but that's his doing. He could be replaced by any overly cautious algorithm and the results would have been the same.

Stadia! Oh wait..

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#39
post #9

Here's the weird thing though, as discussed yesterday [1], the Microsoft demo was totally broken as well. In the end, everyone is looking for a big platform shift (next MOBILE!!!) and hype getting ahead of reality. When we look back in 3 months we will wonder why we thought LLM/GPT type queries will replace search in all forms. https://dkb.blog/p/bing-ai-cant-be-trusted

There seems to be an inordinate amount of venom directed at Pichai relative to other CEOs

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

#40
I am super excited about ChatGPT even just yesterday it helped me fix a really difficult bug. (I was so excited that I even wanted to pay for it but their payment was broken haha)

However, I am starting to think that moving it to bing already wasn’t a smart move. These things are great on OpenAI scale. But I fear they are a money pit with bad pr for google and even bing scale.

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