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Everything You Can’t Have

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Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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A bunch of other rich people don’t know how to enjoy their stuff but you don’t have to fall in that trap. There is a “mindfulness” angle. Instead of taking it always for granted, pay attention and make time enjoy your stuff. Thoigh if you keep realizing the things you have worked hard for don’t end up making you happy, that might be hopeless.

> There is a “mindfulness” angle. Instead of taking it always for granted, pay attention and make time enjoy your stuff. Being satisfied with what you have is what “poor” people (people who can’t have everything) do in order to be happy. What’s the benefit of being rich then?

There is virtue in economy.

- Consuming is usually bad for the environment, even if you're rich. Being satisfied conserves resources.

- The work you devote to something gives it its value. I appreciate good food, good art, good engineering and good woodworking because I have repeatedly attempted them. If you just buy stuff without consideration, you rob yourself of a finer experience.

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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post #12

A bunch of other rich people don’t know how to enjoy their stuff but you don’t have to fall in that trap. There is a “mindfulness” angle. Instead of taking it always for granted, pay attention and make time enjoy your stuff. Thoigh if you keep realizing the things you have worked hard for don’t end up making you happy, that might be hopeless.

> There is a “mindfulness” angle. Instead of taking it always for granted, pay attention and make time enjoy your stuff. Being satisfied with what you have is what “poor” people (people who can’t have everything) do in order to be happy. What’s the benefit of being rich then?

>Being satisfied with what you have is what “poor” people (people who can’t have everything) do in order to be happy. What’s the benefit of being rich then?

It's the ability to do what you want with your time, and to (increasingly with more wealth) say fuck you to people who try to force you into this or that.

It's also the increased ability to change things (for you, others, your city, or even your whole country) towards what you want to happen, aka power and influence.

"Being able to buy nice stuff" is the benefit of being rich that poor (or well-offish but still mostly aspiring to greater wealth) people think being rich is about...

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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post #12

A bunch of other rich people don’t know how to enjoy their stuff but you don’t have to fall in that trap. There is a “mindfulness” angle. Instead of taking it always for granted, pay attention and make time enjoy your stuff. Thoigh if you keep realizing the things you have worked hard for don’t end up making you happy, that might be hopeless.

> There is a “mindfulness” angle. Instead of taking it always for granted, pay attention and make time enjoy your stuff. Being satisfied with what you have is what “poor” people (people who can’t have everything) do in order to be happy. What’s the benefit of being rich then?

> What’s the benefit of being rich then?

Freedom.

Owning better material items is only meant to facilitate freedom. I'm not a collector and never will be, even if I inherit two billion bucks tomorrow.

Examples:

- I'll get an expensive bike so me and my wife can go on an impulsive picnic in the outskirts of the city.

- I'll get an extra house in rural France so we're free to go there if we need the scenery for a few weeks (but will otherwise allow a local family to take care of it).

- I'll just invent stuff in my shed -- or compose the programs I always wanted to write on my computers -- if I'm never worried about money in the future.

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Rich people getting bored and even unhappy is just lack of imagination, intellectual and physical laziness.

Being rich and unhappy is entirely on them. It can be much better in every way but they're too busy complaining about non-issues to see it.

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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Invest money, take the satisfaction of investing in others and seeing them grow it, and reward people who invest their time to produce the things that really do take time, but don't confuse the symbols and their artifacts with the real.

My hack around this was to recognize the only things that were valuable cost time. Fast way to do that was by recognizing the difference between the symbol or representation of something, and its real effect. As a symbol, money makes it it really easy to acquire other symbols, but that's all they are. Instead, get good at something, and even use some money to make opportunity (buy the time, your own or someone elses) to do it, but the more money you spend on them the less satisfying they are. An example is buying an expensive instrument to take beginner lessons, where learning on one can be so unsatisfying and humiliating relative to its symbolic value as to discourage you from pursuing it. The basic absurdity of culture is the belief that if you consume enough symbols of desire you eventually become one - and also perhaps that it is for the lack of those symbols that you are not normal or desirable. Symbols certainly help us negotiate the culture around us, but they are not the substrate or the real.

A quant once told me that the ideal portfolio lets you both eat well and sleep well, but they come at a cost to each other, so good luck with managing, i.e. extracting value from - money. It's not a problem I have, or one that I particularly envy because I mainly value time, and index on sleeping well over eating well.

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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Spend money on experiences, not things: shows, concerts, meals, travel. Rarely if ever have I regretted spending money on one, and nobody can take them away from you later.

Maybe I just have a shitty memory, but time has effectively taken those away without anyone's help.

It’s all still part of who you are now. If you’re unhappy with yourself then maybe it was a waste.

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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I have found that instead of wanting things I don't own, wanting to see created things I haven't created yet very liberating. Since it makes my goals very personal, I can't compare myself on an objective metric with other people and as a result feel less frustrated about not earning more.

How do you trick your brain into this? How do you ignore friends who buy a new car every year?

What stops you from just ignoring them?

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

#39

Why do VCs write these kinds of generic, life advice columns?

For the same reason some scientists make silly philosophical remarks: ultracrepidarianism[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutor,_ne_ultra_crepidam

Seems a bit harsh.

Everyone has a lived existence.

Everyone is trying to optimize their lived experience.

Are you saying a person’s occupation should preclude them from asking “What’s the right way for me to live?”

Re: Everything You Can’t Have

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This approach never worked well for me. Food and travel is so forgettable; it perishes much faster than nice clothes or shiny toys. It also seems like people chase the dragon; keep going to restaurants and resorts. If experiences are so unforgettable, why would you repeat them each year? And for most people it (for the outside) looks fraught with stupid dysfunction; the White Lotus kinds of things where everyone is j…

A resort is a vacation, travel is giong on a safari in African, trekking around the Khailash in Tibet, do a road trip through Uruguay. A resort doesn't give you experiences worth remembering, truely travelling and getting to know new cultures and regions does.

Depends. There is nothing intrinsically valuable in memories about sweating on an uncomfortable trip in Uruguay or a memory of being authentically harassed on the streets of Mumbai. (These are examples from my authentic trips). These fade away as everything else.

Simple resort stay in Greece with my SO is embedded in my memory forever.

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