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MDMA and psilocybin are approved as medicines in Australia

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Re: MDMA and psilocybin are approved as medicines in Australia

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Post by Scoundreller »

whythre wrote: post #15
Traubenfuchs wrote: post #6

I have had the happiest moments of my life on MDMA. Everyone should have experienced it at least once. Let me put it another way: No matter how happy you have ever been, on MDMA you can be happier. Somewhere between 3 and 100 times as happy. You gain perspective. Now, with experience, I would only ever use it with purpose. Dating someone seriously? Have a night on MDMA and you will experience love beyond comprehensio…

… that is only there because you are putting chemicals in your body. ‘Love beyond comprehension’ thanks to a drug doesn’t sound very fun to me, it sounds like something out of Brave New World.

it's not like BNW because you can't really take it all the time. Trick to peak benefit is to space it out. Ideally by several weeks, if not months between sessions.

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Post by cactusplant7374 »

andrewstuart wrote: post #3

Remember this is Australia - a very conservative country. Marijuana possession remains a criminal offence here in most places, with minimal sign this will change any time soon. When they say "for medical usage", they mean it. This is not just a nice acceptable easing in of liberal recreational drugs policy. Don't expect to be buying party drugs from the chemist before going out on saturday night. Despite the fact tha…

The question is how many hoops does the patient have to jump through to get the treatment. In the US some doctors want their patients to try 10 drugs + ECT + TMS before prescribing ketamine for TRD.

Re: MDMA and psilocybin are approved as medicines in Australia

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Post by MonkeyMalarky »

I'd be a pretty happy camper if I could pick up a decent dose of MDMA, Ket or LSD at a store when I occasionally feel like it. It's been years since I've had any and after moving to a new city, starting a family and "growing out of it", I feel like like I could use a good trip.

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Post by robbiep »

pnw wrote: post #20
andrewstuart wrote: post #3

Remember this is Australia - a very conservative country. Marijuana possession remains a criminal offence here in most places, with minimal sign this will change any time soon. When they say "for medical usage", they mean it. This is not just a nice acceptable easing in of liberal recreational drugs policy. Don't expect to be buying party drugs from the chemist before going out on saturday night. Despite the fact tha…

I would peg Australia more as an authoritarian liberal country rather than conservative. Most states in the US are far more conservative than Australia. Australia IMHO has never broken out of the colonial mindset, where the government knows what is best for you. Beyond drugs, that includes pervasive censorship of movies, books, video games, Internet etc. The lack of First and Fourth amendment style protections means…

Weed is now extensively available through e prescribing just about everywhere

Re: MDMA and psilocybin are approved as medicines in Australia

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Post by Atsuii »

robbiep wrote: post #34
pnw wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would peg Australia more as an authoritarian liberal country rather than conservative. Most states in the US are far more conservative than Australia. Australia IMHO has never broken out of the colonial mindset, where the government knows what is best for you. Beyond drugs, that includes pervasive censorship of movies, books, video games, Internet etc. The lack of First and Fourth amendment style protections means…

Weed is now extensively available through e prescribing just about everywhere

It remains criminal to have any THC in your system when driving even with a prescription though. With no meaningful way to test if someone has consumed THC in the past 5 hours vs the night before it makes it a useless medical aid for anyone who has to drive, which outside of inner suburbs of Melbourne & Sydney is the vast majority of people in Australia.

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Post by 111111101101 »

Atsuii wrote: post #35
robbiep wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weed is now extensively available through e prescribing just about everywhere

It remains criminal to have any THC in your system when driving even with a prescription though. With no meaningful way to test if someone has consumed THC in the past 5 hours vs the night before it makes it a useless medical aid for anyone who has to drive, which outside of inner suburbs of Melbourne & Sydney is the vast majority of people in Australia.

I keep hearing this but surely if you presented your prescription in court the charges would be dropped? In my experience, magistrates are usually very reasonable. Police on the other hand...

Re: MDMA and psilocybin are approved as medicines in Australia

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Post by __turbobrew__ »

ilostmyshoes wrote: post #5
luxuryballs wrote: post #4

I still wouldn’t risk obtaining them legally, discretion is paramount for controversial medicine. One tiny data leak and your reputation is tarnished in certain circles, and that doesn’t even get into why the government knowing about it could be risky.

How could one possibly harm their reputation by using a legal medication

It’s legal to insult someone, that doesn’t mean your reputation remains untarnished. Reputation has little to do with legality.

Re: MDMA and psilocybin are approved as medicines in Australia

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Post by LAC-Tech »

MonkeyMalarky wrote: post #33

I'd be a pretty happy camper if I could pick up a decent dose of MDMA, Ket or LSD at a store when I occasionally feel like it. It's been years since I've had any and after moving to a new city, starting a family and "growing out of it", I feel like like I could use a good trip.

On the one hand, that sounds reasonable. On the other hand - I'm not exactly thrilled with the way people use the current that's already easily available at stores.

Re: MDMA and psilocybin are approved as medicines in Australia

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Post by mr_beans »

pnw wrote: post #20
andrewstuart wrote: post #3

Remember this is Australia - a very conservative country. Marijuana possession remains a criminal offence here in most places, with minimal sign this will change any time soon. When they say "for medical usage", they mean it. This is not just a nice acceptable easing in of liberal recreational drugs policy. Don't expect to be buying party drugs from the chemist before going out on saturday night. Despite the fact tha…

I would peg Australia more as an authoritarian liberal country rather than conservative. Most states in the US are far more conservative than Australia. Australia IMHO has never broken out of the colonial mindset, where the government knows what is best for you. Beyond drugs, that includes pervasive censorship of movies, books, video games, Internet etc. The lack of First and Fourth amendment style protections means…

Don’t forget the second amendment!

Re: MDMA and psilocybin are approved as medicines in Australia

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Post by trissylegs »

andrewstuart wrote: post #3

Remember this is Australia - a very conservative country. Marijuana possession remains a criminal offence here in most places, with minimal sign this will change any time soon. When they say "for medical usage", they mean it. This is not just a nice acceptable easing in of liberal recreational drugs policy. Don't expect to be buying party drugs from the chemist before going out on saturday night. Despite the fact tha…

For comparison. A few years ago they tried to reschedule Amyl Nitrate (aka Poppers) a drug available as "Leather cleaner" in most sex shops. It was going to put on the same schedule as Heroin making it illegal to possess.

Then after complaint they completely changed to make it an over the counter drug. Although as far as I know it's still not available at any chemist I know of. But you can still buy it as Leather cleaner from few sex shops. (Less than it used to)

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