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Re: YouTube Offers College Credits from Watching Videos

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Careful not to create a wrong incentive where universities just churn people through a program that slowly becomes impossible to fail.

Compared to the existing programs where teachers are pressured to pass people because you can't just fail 70% of the students because it makes the passing rate too low for your school?

Neither approach sounds better. :(

Re: YouTube Offers College Credits from Watching Videos

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post #17

$400 for course credit? $350 scholarship pricing?? WTAF. I paid $6/unit ($12.50 in 2022 dollars) at my community college back in the day.

... by 2009, FIU, a public university was charging 150 per credit, and a normal class was 3 credits. Also, they would add bullshit remote learning fees, parking fees and gym fees that most students would never make use of.

Re: YouTube Offers College Credits from Watching Videos

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>> I'd hate to have my college credits killed by Google once they get bored of this. The good news is that once Google gets bored of this then any college credits earned should still be valid because the credits are backed by ASU. Google is only the delivery and distribution partner. FTA: "This credit can then be used at any of the hundreds of institutions that accept credits from ASU."

> should Unless of course something goes wrong, and you need to contact them for assistance.

You would be contacting the ASU, not Google.

Re: YouTube Offers College Credits from Watching Videos

#36
That's a positive development. It seems reasonable to predict that something that was only available to an elite class of people would be among the first things that we would all optimize our innovation for, to make the content of college courses available to everyone else. As the effect of simple demand and innovation, the ability of colleges and universities to confer durably elite status on their graduates can only get decimated each year.

Knowledge used to be an honest signal of social status, but it just isn't anymore. It's great though because we have generally more knowledgable people everywhere who can apply incredible tools, and it lifts all boats. However the colleges and universities will need a new way to corner the market on conferring elite status, as I think their v1.0 product of producing graduates merely aligned to "theory" hasn't really worked or produced anything that commands popular respect. Sure, we fear for our jobs, but there is no willingness, and the biggest problem the social studies grads who have taken the helms of institutions have now is suppressing mockery of themselves online. But they're smart people, I'm sure they'll figure something out. May a hundred flowers blossom.

Re: YouTube Offers College Credits from Watching Videos

#37
I am not enthused by this. There seems to be a lot of work out there on the idea of making some parts of education more accessible. This basically offers you freshman year general education courses through ASU, with the videos hosted on youtube. But this also charges $400 a course, which means most people would be better off taking courses at their local community college.

Re: YouTube Offers College Credits from Watching Videos

#38
post #7

> There is a $25 fee if the learner elects to sign up and begin coursework, and an optional $400 fee to receive college credit for each course. Learners who register before March 7, 2023 will receive special scholarship pricing of $350 per course

That’s pretty steep for European standards, not sure what the value proposition is for us.. but I guess one could use it to get credits and a study visa to graduate? Idk.

I don't think European students are the market for this (maybe British students, now that they're copying USian approaches to funding) because your market can't be privatized and bound to platforms. At least as far as I can tell. State unis and smaller private LA colleges in the US have ceded space that's been privatized like this (the "State" in "ASU" is a nice example of this if you know the history of ASUonline), and the credit/FTE situation is dire in light of the demographic challenges to universities right now. Somebody in another comment says "lectures are cheap" and no, my dude, they aren't, not for provosts weighing FTEs against a chancellor telling them to maintain student/fac ratios at 2010 levels. Hank Green ain't getting retrenched.

Re: YouTube Offers College Credits from Watching Videos

#39
post #30

This is pretty great, $25 for course work and lectures and you pay $400 for credits only if you pass and like your grade. Universities should be incentivized for you to pass, not just show up.

"Incentivize to pass" the institution that makes and grades the tests - what effect do you think that will have?

It would be like today where some public universities with tight budgets that will do pretty much anything to keep international students who pay top dollar.
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