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Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For context, this is Project Veritas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas > Project Veritas is an American far-right activist group founded by James O'Keefe in 2010. The group produces deceptively edited videos of its undercover operations, which use secret recordings in an effort to discredit mainstream media organizations and progressive groups. Project Veritas also uses entrapment to generate bad publici…

Something like this is always posted whenever Project Veritas comes up. I agree they're mostly finding things for outrage culture and are generally annoying... sometimes they uncover legitimately concerning things though. That said, here's an example of why I dislike this "argument." Joseph Bruno, Dean of Students, Francis W. Parker School: “So, I’ve been the Dean for four years. During Pride -- we do a Pride Week ev…

Your substitution...

- passing around butt-plugs and dildos to my students

+ [giving] out sex toys to kids

...is an example of exactly the kind of transcription error via which controversy ignites into hysteria. If we are to interpret your intent charitably, we must also charitably assume that abstract anatomical models (sex toys) are a useful and valid demonstration tool in the context of sexual health education.

Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For context, this is Project Veritas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas > Project Veritas is an American far-right activist group founded by James O'Keefe in 2010. The group produces deceptively edited videos of its undercover operations, which use secret recordings in an effort to discredit mainstream media organizations and progressive groups. Project Veritas also uses entrapment to generate bad publici…

Something like this is always posted whenever Project Veritas comes up. I agree they're mostly finding things for outrage culture and are generally annoying... sometimes they uncover legitimately concerning things though. That said, here's an example of why I dislike this "argument." Joseph Bruno, Dean of Students, Francis W. Parker School: “So, I’ve been the Dean for four years. During Pride -- we do a Pride Week ev…

I have not watched the video, but I will note that “passing around” can mean “passing around the room [and then taking back].” The linked article says only the toys were “shown.”

This is not the same as “[giving] out sex toys to kids.”

Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims

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You insult the intelligence of anyone to suggest that Project Veritas does not have a right-wing political agenda. Whether it is "far" to the right, I don't know. I'd certainly be curious to see the videos if they were to turn their spycraft/journalism (I'll admit there may be some overlap in those) on powerful right-wing figures, but we both know that will not be happening. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that a va…

Well, if you watch the original video, he said that he speculated that’s what happened in Wuhan, and that there had better not be more outbreaks. Just the fact that a Pfizer employee would make a serious comment like that is terrifying and should spark investigations into that lab immediately. Also, there should be investigations to our pandemic leadership for so heavily insisting that it almost certainly was not a l…

I’d say as a rule, I think much more federal regulation of industry in the US (presuming you don’t mean the Wuhan lab) would be nice to have, but it seems pretty unpopular. If you do mean the Wuhan lab, then I gotta say that Xi seems like an even tougher sell on the idea.

As far as the whole leak thing goes, I always assumed it was just like every plague since antiquity; not a lab leak or creation (I think one of the problems that that crowd had was differentiating themselves from the whole “tinfoil crazy uncle” thing).

Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims

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This is responding to an undercover video by the activists at Project Veritas. They have released a video that appears to show a Pfizer director saying they are mutating new COVID lines for vaccine purposes.

“Appears?” You appear to use the word “appears” when it is just a fact.

Also I guess soon chatgpt will gain this function by reading your narrative.

Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something like this is always posted whenever Project Veritas comes up. I agree they're mostly finding things for outrage culture and are generally annoying... sometimes they uncover legitimately concerning things though. That said, here's an example of why I dislike this "argument." Joseph Bruno, Dean of Students, Francis W. Parker School: “So, I’ve been the Dean for four years. During Pride -- we do a Pride Week ev…

I have not watched the video, but I will note that “passing around” can mean “passing around the room [and then taking back].” The linked article says only the toys were “shown.” This is not the same as “[giving] out sex toys to kids.”

For the people that the story targets, even if there may be that misunderstanding, does that make it any much better?

Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims

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This is responding to an undercover video by the activists at Project Veritas. They have released a video that appears to show a Pfizer director saying they are mutating new COVID lines for vaccine purposes.

And Project Veritas has demonstrated they are not to be taken as a valid source.

What part of this video is in particular untrue?

If you lied 10000000 times before, so your claim that 1+1=2 is no longer valid?

Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims

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This is responding to an undercover video by the activists at Project Veritas. They have released a video that appears to show a Pfizer director saying they are mutating new COVID lines for vaccine purposes.

And Project Veritas has demonstrated they are not to be taken as a valid source.

Fortunately we don’t have to, we have the video that shows exactly what they said it did, unambiguously and with plenty of context.

Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims

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By the claims people make against them, the mainstream media is many times more guilty. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34558690

> the mainstream media is many times more guilty This "activist" is financed by Koch brothers. How is he in opposition to "mainstream" media?

He’s not, but they’re no more credible for the same reason.

Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims

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This is responding to an undercover video by the activists at Project Veritas. They have released a video that appears to show a Pfizer director saying they are mutating new COVID lines for vaccine purposes.

For context, this is Project Veritas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas > Project Veritas is an American far-right activist group founded by James O'Keefe in 2010. The group produces deceptively edited videos of its undercover operations, which use secret recordings in an effort to discredit mainstream media organizations and progressive groups. Project Veritas also uses entrapment to generate bad publici…

That’s a very generous reading of what far right means. They’re not fascists.

Re: Pfizer Responds to Covid Gain of Function Research Claims

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And Project Veritas has demonstrated they are not to be taken as a valid source.

What part of this video is in particular untrue? If you lied 10000000 times before, so your claim that 1+1=2 is no longer valid?

Also, on that note, the average American lies 4 times every day, or 1,460 lies per year. Does that mean there is no such thing as trust?

I can make anyone look like a serial liar if I hate them enough.

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