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“Pigeon Neck” Illusion (2014)

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Re: “Pigeon Neck” Illusion (2014)

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I don’t feel this is much of an illusion. I think you just can’t see the movement of gray on black. Or maybe this is what illusions are in a very simple form?

How would you define what an optical/visual illusion is?

I’m just saying upon initial thought that it seemed too simple to be considered an “illusion” because it doesn’t rely on some mental trickery, just blindness. But I’m willing to accept that optical illusions may all rely on some form of blindness. Glad to spawn the conversation!

Re: “Pigeon Neck” Illusion (2014)

#32
post #23

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Try closing one eye and tilting your head 90°

I can see it irrespective of how many eyes are open or any tilt angle.

So you can see it with zero eyes open? ;)

I also see it with any number (>= 1) of eyes open and at any angle. Wonder if GP's phone was on night shift or something similar - the article mentions that color changes impact the illusion's visibility.

Re: “Pigeon Neck” Illusion (2014)

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post #17

I was in bed reading this with an eye closed and was very confused until I discovered the illusion works for me only when I watch it with both eyes open. I found this surprising—I know three dimensional optical illusions depend on focus and perspective, but I was unaware two dimensional optical illusions were as well.

Astigmatism? My eyes blur at different angles so various anisotropies show up only when one is closed.

Re: “Pigeon Neck” Illusion (2014)

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post #19
post #17

I was in bed reading this with an eye closed and was very confused until I discovered the illusion works for me only when I watch it with both eyes open. I found this surprising—I know three dimensional optical illusions depend on focus and perspective, but I was unaware two dimensional optical illusions were as well.

Thats interesting. I see it with either or both eyes.

I... only see it happening with either both eyes or my right eye...

My left eye is immune? This is uncanny...

Re: “Pigeon Neck” Illusion (2014)

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post #5

I don’t feel this is much of an illusion. I think you just can’t see the movement of gray on black. Or maybe this is what illusions are in a very simple form?

Pretty much. Change the color to yellow and it’s very obvious.

Yellow doesn't do it for me. But orange, oh boy.

Re: “Pigeon Neck” Illusion (2014)

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There is room for disagreement in some cases. “Look how the black text becomes invisible when it goes in front of a black background” is not what I would call an optical illusion, for instance.

I would describe an illusion as something where my (say) visual cortex is lying to me. This results in an image looking very odd: I _know_ that one thing is happening, but it looks like something else is happening. Black text going in front of a black background doesn't have that effect. My knowledge of what I'm seeing agrees with what I see. My knowledge is "there is black text in front of that black text", and my v…

It's th e same illusion as someone walking out a door and somehow teleporting to another door after they walked around outside.

Re: “Pigeon Neck” Illusion (2014)

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post #19

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Thats interesting. I see it with either or both eyes.

I... only see it happening with either both eyes or my right eye... My left eye is immune? This is uncanny...

Sounds like your perception can't exactly be pigeonholed.

Boom, baby.

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