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Re: Deepfaked Tom Cruise and Paris Hilton by Metaphysic

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Post by hajhatten »

flohofwoe wrote: post #25
pocketarc wrote: post #8

Give it a couple more years to iron out the kinks and throw in more resources, and even fewer people may be able to spot anything off (I already cannot - even knowing that it's fake, there's no way I'd ever think "wow this is a fake video"). This is either going to send a shockwave to society in the trust department (i.e. we'll have to absolutely distrust everything and everyone will have to adapt immediately), or we…

Or maybe people will just start requiring more evidence that something actually happened instead of believing everything they find on Tiktok (or the wider internet), which would actually be a good thing.

Video evidence may not be trusted as evidence in court in the future. Will we require something more perhaps? Or will the word of AI keen on spotting something's off be what we trust?

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Post by pabo »

pocketarc wrote: post #8

Give it a couple more years to iron out the kinks and throw in more resources, and even fewer people may be able to spot anything off (I already cannot - even knowing that it's fake, there's no way I'd ever think "wow this is a fake video"). This is either going to send a shockwave to society in the trust department (i.e. we'll have to absolutely distrust everything and everyone will have to adapt immediately), or we…

You're spot on, I think. This is already happening, and disintegrates society. There are countries where an analogue version of this is already implemented: fake parliament with fake opposition, fake government, fake media, fake prosecutions, fake health care system, fake education system, fake state functions. By fake I mean: it looks like a real one, but it's real goals and purposes are very different from what is officially advertised.

It's scary to think about how AI will boost the already way too effective politics of "fake".

Re: Deepfaked Tom Cruise and Paris Hilton by Metaphysic

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Post by flakeoil »

js8 wrote: post #10

I find it hilarious that every time humankind invents a new unexpected technology, the first use cases are always entertainment. Other examples than deepfakes or ChatGPT: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile - first batteries were used on parties to run current through people for fun - first use of uranium was in phosphorescent paint

Or maybe that's the first time other people (most people) hear about them? I'm quite sure the first usage of batteries was not "used on parties to run current through people for fun". Probably some boring scientists or engineers used them for other purposes long before that.

Re: Deepfaked Tom Cruise and Paris Hilton by Metaphysic

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Post by alar44 »

hacb wrote: post #14
Reubend wrote: post #4

Looks great. I think it's definitely possible to tell that it's fake if you already know that it's not a real video, but I probably wouldn't have noticed anything out of the ordinary if I weren't already primed to spot subtle issues in their faces.

According to another comment, only Tom Cruise is fake

I think this exchange is proof we've arrived.

Re: Deepfaked Tom Cruise and Paris Hilton by Metaphysic

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Post by hajhatten »

cm2187 wrote: post #12
bberrry wrote: post #3

Maybe I'm bad at spotting these things but it looks and sounds super convincing to me. I really dread this technology weaponized in politics.

Why would it have more impact than photoshop? We just don't trust an image unless we are confident of the source. The same will apply to video.

The amount of work needed to fake a photo vs the uncanny valley of animated human faces.

Re: Deepfaked Tom Cruise and Paris Hilton by Metaphysic

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Post by peyton »

low_tech_love wrote: post #19
manmal wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think once deepfaking reaches a sufficient level of believability, people will stop believing video evidence.

A bunch of people will believe it for some amount of time, and given the very low cost of producing it, it’ll be enough. If there is one thing we learned from the recent increase in mainstream extremism fueled by social networks is that fake rumors don’t have to be especially reasonable to be effective; they just need to be generated and broadcasted at a sufficient rate (selection will do the rest of the work). One i…

I dunno, I don’t think people need to be tricked into thinking certain things. It’s usually what they want. I don’t think promoting “the facts” or worrying about fake videos is going to change anything directionally.

Re: Deepfaked Tom Cruise and Paris Hilton by Metaphysic

#37

Post by khazhoux »

pocketarc wrote: post #8

Give it a couple more years to iron out the kinks and throw in more resources, and even fewer people may be able to spot anything off (I already cannot - even knowing that it's fake, there's no way I'd ever think "wow this is a fake video"). This is either going to send a shockwave to society in the trust department (i.e. we'll have to absolutely distrust everything and everyone will have to adapt immediately), or we…

We will eventually find black-market "off-the-grid" data centers where you can run AI algorithms away from government-mandated watermarks, and generate untraceable content to topple politicians and such.

Re: Deepfaked Tom Cruise and Paris Hilton by Metaphysic

#38

Post by timnf »

pabo wrote: post #32
pocketarc wrote: post #8

Give it a couple more years to iron out the kinks and throw in more resources, and even fewer people may be able to spot anything off (I already cannot - even knowing that it's fake, there's no way I'd ever think "wow this is a fake video"). This is either going to send a shockwave to society in the trust department (i.e. we'll have to absolutely distrust everything and everyone will have to adapt immediately), or we…

You're spot on, I think. This is already happening, and disintegrates society. There are countries where an analogue version of this is already implemented: fake parliament with fake opposition, fake government, fake media, fake prosecutions, fake health care system, fake education system, fake state functions. By fake I mean: it looks like a real one, but it's real goals and purposes are very different from what is…

Which countries are you referring to, with fake versions of all institutions?

Re: Deepfaked Tom Cruise and Paris Hilton by Metaphysic

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Post by ctack »

My bold prediction. Please hold me to this in 2 years /s..

Some video storage service or ‘authentication service middleman’ is going to make a mint with blockchain authenticity proofing. They’ll provide a seal of authenticity that the feed being viewed came direct from a camera. Feed will be checked during viewing as well to verify its ‘camera direct’ state.

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