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Re: The 88x31 GIF Collection

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Post by freitzkriesler » Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 8:51 PM UTC

whstl wrote: post #27

freitzkriesler wrote: post #26

Ugh stop it HN, I can only handle so much nostalgia! FYI, in Japan there's a sunset of websites that are meant for a Japanese only audience and the pages are still designed in 'ol faithful web 1.0 designs.

That's interesting, I recently had a discussion about how Japan has a bit of a tendency to hang on to fashion for much longer, but applied to music. Like certain styles of metal being popular after decline in the west, 90s Animes with soundtracks that sounded like 80s AOR/R&B, or even 80s-pointy-guitars being used by Japanese indie bands. And not in a bad way, but more in a "fashion isn't as fleeting in Japan". Also…

You're not wrong at all. It's also out of necessity since most development tools and documentation is EN to JP. Its hard for them to find answers since everything is either in English or outdated.

Regardless, the mentality of ofjit ain't broke don't fix it is well engrained in J culture. It's something that I admire of the Japanese.

Re: The 88x31 GIF Collection

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Post by neilv » Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 8:54 PM UTC

These look small on my setup. They used to be displayed 1:1 with low-dpi screen pixels, no scaling.

Re: The 88x31 GIF Collection

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Post by gmiller123456 » Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 9:01 PM UTC

ajbt200128 wrote: post #17

jwilk wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why did Geocities use the 88×31 format? https://neonaut.neocities.org/cyber/88x31 (link warning: lots of 88×31 GIFs!) says it's likely because the "Netscape Now!" button was of that size.

But why was the Netscape Now button that size? We must go deeper

It's 88x31 GIFs all the way down.

Re: The 88x31 GIF Collection

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Post by stiltzkin10 » Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 9:13 PM UTC

All those banners would make an epic poster :O

Re: The 88x31 GIF Collection

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Post by chunkyks » Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 9:15 PM UTC

lysergia wrote: post #4

The 'Best viewed with Internet Explorer'[0] GIF triggers severe nostalgia. IE was the dominant browser at the time, and these propaganda buttons just reinforced the idea that IE was the only browser you should be using. Still see the odd site saying 'Works best in Chrome' as if Chrome was the new IE. Personally though, if your site is one of those annoying SPA (Single Page Apps) and doesn't work in Lynx[1], you're do…

Recently enough to have been unacceptable, the director of our internal apps team decided to only support IE when they redid the intranet site. This, in a place that installs Firefox on all endpoints and proxy logs showing less than 50pct IE usage.

He was unamused when I started posting "screenshots" with "best viewed in ie" logos added.

Re: The 88x31 GIF Collection

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Post by Sembiance » Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 9:21 PM UTC

DanAtC wrote: post #18

Here's a search of 88x31 gifs from CDs, disks, and FTP sites on archive.org as indexed by discmaster.textfiles.com: http://discmaster.textfiles.com/search?widthMin=88&heightMin...

If you extend the range by 1px to be 87x30 to 88x32 you double the amount of results and get those images that are off by 1px: http://discmaster.textfiles.com/search?family=image&widthMin...

Re: The 88x31 GIF Collection

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Post by vasvir » Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 9:34 PM UTC

bjt2n3904 wrote: post #29

ajbt200128 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why was the Netscape Now button that size? We must go deeper

As it turns out, if you put two horses side by side...

I think the parent refers to that which is a classic one: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/the-link-between-a-hor...

Re: The 88x31 GIF Collection

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Post by jimmygrapes » Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 12:09 AM UTC

lysergia wrote: post #4

The 'Best viewed with Internet Explorer'[0] GIF triggers severe nostalgia. IE was the dominant browser at the time, and these propaganda buttons just reinforced the idea that IE was the only browser you should be using. Still see the odd site saying 'Works best in Chrome' as if Chrome was the new IE. Personally though, if your site is one of those annoying SPA (Single Page Apps) and doesn't work in Lynx[1], you're do…

To this day I have encountered several sites (sort of public, behind logins) that refuse to load if "Gecko" is in the user agent and display variations of "This site requires Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge to work. Please install one of these browsers and ensure it is up to date to proceed."

A user agent spoof extension solves the problem because there's actually nothing used that Firefox doesn't support. Maybe there was, one day, but someone forgot to keep up, or didn't want to.

This has happened for me within the last 3 months with both a widely known financial application provider rhyming with "I'm a twit" and an educational software provider rhyming vaguely with "Crack jorts"

Re: The 88x31 GIF Collection

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Post by issung » Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 1:49 AM UTC

Creator should consider combining those that are still or share the same number of frames into a single image, or atleast an image that combines ~100 so that its a single web request, then splice them using CSS.

Re: The 88x31 GIF Collection

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Post by samtho » Mon, Jan 23, 2023, 1:56 AM UTC

issung wrote: post #39

Creator should consider combining those that are still or share the same number of frames into a single image, or atleast an image that combines ~100 so that its a single web request, then splice them using CSS.

This is sort of tone deaf considering the context of the 88x31 gif.