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Microsoft to lay off 10k workers

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Re: Microsoft to lay off 10k workers

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post #10

They're spreading it out over the full year. Interesting that they would announce it up front like this? What does this do to morale and retention?

It's not over the full year, it's before the end of March.

It says "through the end of FY23 Q3". Microsoft's fiscal year ends at the end of June, so their "FY23 Q3" is the current quarter.

Re: Microsoft to lay off 10k workers

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post #7

>U.S.-benefit-eligible employees will receive a variety of benefits, including above-market severance pay, continuing healthcare coverage for six months, continued vesting of stock awards for six months, career transition services, and 60 days’ notice prior to termination, regardless of whether such notice is legally required. Wow, that way way, better than what we get by law in my EU country when you're laid off (ju…

Legit question, don't EU have by law, very generous unemployment benefits compared to the US?

The "continued vesting of stock awards for six months" piece specifically is, as far as I know, not mandated by law anywhere, and is really generous.

Re: Microsoft to lay off 10k workers

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MSFT manager of 25+ person team here with no actual heads up on this. The writing has been on the wall for months though from internal comms so this should come as a surprise to no one. No one on my team has any information about this beyond the Satya email, so this is either a "no news is good news" situation (assuming you don't actually want to be laid off), or a poorly executed process. I'm hoping for the former f…

I always assumed that the disclosure rules for publicly traded companies would require them not to give anyone notice in advance of the public.

Re: Microsoft to lay off 10k workers

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While there is no good way to do a mass-layoff, I don't particularly like the way this was communicated. There's a lot of flowery language and the fact that there will be massive layoffs is only said in passing in the third paragraph.

This will never be good news, obviously, but please communicate the important facts clearly.

Re: Microsoft to lay off 10k workers

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Families will get torn apart, people with health issues will be on their own, immigrants will get booted. C-suite will get a raise from the stock price bump. Congrats on our system.

I understand the frustration here. But the same system that takes away so much also gives so very very much. There is no system that is only upside.

Re: Microsoft to lay off 10k workers

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Federal Reserve wants to tame inflation by cooling the economy. I don't believe that historically that has ever been achieved without causing unemployment to rise. These large companies are ultimately doing what the Fed wants them to do, no point blaming the c-suite for that?

They could all take massive pay cuts to preserve jobs. They have agency and they have chosen to enrich their stock price at the expense of people’s lives and well being.

Contrary to popular belief, at a company the size of MSFT - the execs could drop all their wages to $0 - and it would not be able to save 5% of the workforce from getting fired.

The execs get paid a lot - but there's not that many of them, and there's 200k people at MSFT making an average salary (with benefits) >$200k. That's >$40B per year. The execs don't take home >$2B per year.

Satya made <$60M last year. There's not 35 execs at MSFT making the same amount of money or higher. There's 18 others, and they make a lot less money on average.

Re: Microsoft to lay off 10k workers

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>U.S.-benefit-eligible employees will receive a variety of benefits, including above-market severance pay, continuing healthcare coverage for six months, continued vesting of stock awards for six months, career transition services, and 60 days’ notice prior to termination, regardless of whether such notice is legally required. Wow, that way way, better than what we get by law in my EU country when you're laid off (ju…

The difference is Microsoft doesn't have to be so generous.

And yet they are. Even though they could give you nothing, they chose otherwise.

Re: Microsoft to lay off 10k workers

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post #10

They're spreading it out over the full year. Interesting that they would announce it up front like this? What does this do to morale and retention?

Could be a big brain move, or a micro brain one.

Big brain: I'm telegraphing that we'll be letting lots of people go so they will self-select and we won't have to fire as many. I imagine that someone could have this idea, but I doubt it benefits the company in practice.

Micro brain: 'If you have not received notice that are are affected, your are safe! Resume being 100% productive until you receive notice that you are fired at a later time. That is all.'

Having lived through 2001 dot-com bust, I can say that being the retained employee can be worse than being laid off.

Re: Microsoft to lay off 10k workers

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post #10

They're spreading it out over the full year. Interesting that they would announce it up front like this? What does this do to morale and retention?

Microsoft’s Fiscal Year ends on 6/30, so FY23 Q3 ends on 3/31/23. This is only one calendar year quarter.
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