In the eyes of the West, China is supposedly a very repressive state where the people have no freedom. This is easily debunked by visiting China and seeing how the Chinese live. The claims in this article are, in the words of its author, easily debunked by visiting China and seeing how the Chinese live .
Western Arrogance and China
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#32In the eyes of the West, China is supposedly a very repressive state where the people have no freedom. This is easily debunked by visiting China and seeing how the Chinese live. The claims in this article are, in the words of its author, easily debunked by visiting China and seeing how the Chinese live .
I am certain you've never been to China. https://youtu.be/uBchAUGW7Bk
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I am certain you've never been to China. https://youtu.be/uBchAUGW7Bk
And you'd be wrong.
Your comment makes no sense to me.
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Most Chinese wouldn't classify their government as "Democratic" even if they think the government works for them. Most Chinese never go abroad either, just a small portion that makes up the middle class. You aren't going to talk to some farmer in the middle of henan province about their overseas trips. Heck, most people in Shanghai (the richest city) haven't been abroad, especially if they don't have hukou there (and…
In 2019, there were about 150 million outbound tourists from China (and I think this means mainland China, specifically, but I don't know if multiple trips by the same person count multiple times).[0] That's up from 100 million in 2013, so the number was rapidly increasing before the pandemic (and it will probably begin rapidly increasing again). Regardless, the point stands that at the moment, there's no mass rush t…
It's not liberal democracy. It's not democracy as defined in the West.
It's the Chinese model of democracy, or what is known as "whole-process people's democracy."
And it works for the Chinese. That's the big takeaway.
That's why the Chinese regard China as the most democratic nation in the world, according to Latana's Democracy Perception Index 2022.
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Ignore what? Have you been to China? The author isn't saying China is perfect. He's simply pointing out Western anti-China propaganda.
It is just strawman: look at some extreme reporting on China, therefore all reporting about China in the west is wrong. It would be like judging Chinese media based on editorials in Globaltimes.cn.
When the general public sees all this on television, it is extremely influential (such is the power of television media). And, of course, all of this is repeated on social media. So I don't think it's a strawman at all.
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In 2019, there were about 150 million outbound tourists from China (and I think this means mainland China, specifically, but I don't know if multiple trips by the same person count multiple times).[0] That's up from 100 million in 2013, so the number was rapidly increasing before the pandemic (and it will probably begin rapidly increasing again). Regardless, the point stands that at the moment, there's no mass rush t…
> It's not a democracy, but it's not the dystopia it's caricatured as in Western media. It's not liberal democracy. It's not democracy as defined in the West. It's the Chinese model of democracy, or what is known as "whole-process people's democracy." And it works for the Chinese. That's the big takeaway. That's why the Chinese regard China as the most democratic nation in the world, according to Latana's Democracy P…
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> It's not a democracy, but it's not the dystopia it's caricatured as in Western media. It's not liberal democracy. It's not democracy as defined in the West. It's the Chinese model of democracy, or what is known as "whole-process people's democracy." And it works for the Chinese. That's the big takeaway. That's why the Chinese regard China as the most democratic nation in the world, according to Latana's Democracy P…
It's just as silly to buy into the Chinese government's own propaganda about "whole process democracy" as it is to buy into Western fear propaganda about China.
That's what the author meant by Western arrogance. We in the West think we are entitled to define what is and isn't democracy. On what basis? Because we dominate the world politically?
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It's just as silly to buy into the Chinese government's own propaganda about "whole process democracy" as it is to buy into Western fear propaganda about China.
Why is whole-process people's democracy silly? Just because you don't believe in it? That's what the author meant by Western arrogance. We in the West think we are entitled to define what is and isn't democracy. On what basis? Because we dominate the world politically?