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CEOs at Disney and Starbucks demand that workers start returning to the office

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Re: CEOs at Disney and Starbucks demand that workers start returning to the office

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I don't know about Starbucks, but there's plenty of resentment among manufacturing workers that their white-collar counterparts get to sit at home

A lot of people who are envious of WFH imagine it's lounging around watching Netflix, and likely would not be able to handle the actual work though.

Re: CEOs at Disney and Starbucks demand that workers start returning to the office

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know, right? I thought COVID proved definitively that remote work is not just possible but equal to in-office work. I really want to understand the counterarguments, but all I see is oblique assertions like "true creativity requires body language." I'm keeping an open mind, and I acknowledge that in-person chat features much higher comm bandwidth than video chat, but I'd like to see a well-reasoned explanation of w…

> I thought COVID proved definitively that remote work is not just possible but equal to in-office work. That's an extremely strong claim. How do you think COVID proved it "definitively"?

Because remote work was the only work in 2020 and 2021, yet a large majority of businesses continued to function mostly well. Some even exceeded their average results.

Re: CEOs at Disney and Starbucks demand that workers start returning to the office

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Well for Disney in particular, I see this as just a logical first move before layoffs. If you can drive a good bunch of employees to quit, then that's all the fewer layoffs you need to perform in the coming months.

Doesn't that ensure that the most desirable employees leave and the least desirable cling on?

Re: CEOs at Disney and Starbucks demand that workers start returning to the office

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I don't know about Starbucks, but there's plenty of resentment among manufacturing workers that their white-collar counterparts get to sit at home

White-collar counterparts sitting at home = much less traffic for the manufacturing workers ...

They typically commute during different times

Re: CEOs at Disney and Starbucks demand that workers start returning to the office

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From the article - “While an agreement had been reached last year to work one to two days per week in the office, badge swipes indicated many employees “are not meeting their minimum promise,”” Reminded me of this quote from Office Space. “Look, we want you to express yourself, okay? Now if you feel that the bare minimum is enough, then okay. But some people choose to wear more and we encourage that, okay? You do wan…

But these employees aren't meeting the bare minimum, which they apparently agreed to (as opposed to it being dictated to them). Not sure you really understand the Office Space scene, it's entirely different. It's not funny if Jennifer Aniston was wearing only 3 pieces of flair and she was being reprimanded for not meeting the minimum. The humor comes from the fact that she was meeting the minimum of 15 (which she obv…

Coerced into agreeing, perhaps. I cannot pretend for a moment that the playing field is level here.

Re: CEOs at Disney and Starbucks demand that workers start returning to the office

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But these employees aren't meeting the bare minimum, which they apparently agreed to (as opposed to it being dictated to them). Not sure you really understand the Office Space scene, it's entirely different. It's not funny if Jennifer Aniston was wearing only 3 pieces of flair and she was being reprimanded for not meeting the minimum. The humor comes from the fact that she was meeting the minimum of 15 (which she obv…

Coerced into agreeing, perhaps. I cannot pretend for a moment that the playing field is level here.

Perhaps. However even in a worst-case scenario, the company simply mandating that employees must spend 2 days in office, on-site... some employees aren't doing it. And if 3 days at home aren't enough for you and you won't show up twice a week, I'm guessing the company won't miss you too much after they fire you.
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