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Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

#33

Now that the two big Thinkpad pointer stick patents have expired I wonder why more laptop makers aren't incorporating them?

Despite the niche love for them on a personal level corporate fleet buyers would still buy DTSN screens if they were $5 cheaper per unit than the regular ones because they are that damn fickle. That is to say their priorities are different.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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You can. Its for people like me who want a linux laptop, but don't want to go through the hassle of installing it. While I could, I just didn't want to spend the time on it, plus setting up some drivers here and there. Thats the value prop. I got one for home use, (Oryx pro with Nvidia) 4 years ago. It worked well enough and had so few issues I got one for work.

I totally sympathize with the driver compatibility concern, but what is the hassle of sticking in a linux usb drive to install? In general, how serious are these driver compatibility concerns for modern laptop hardware?

The driver issues still exist if you don't do research ahead of time. There are laptops on the shelf today that still don't fully work out of the box with Ubuntu.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can. Its for people like me who want a linux laptop, but don't want to go through the hassle of installing it. While I could, I just didn't want to spend the time on it, plus setting up some drivers here and there. Thats the value prop. I got one for home use, (Oryx pro with Nvidia) 4 years ago. It worked well enough and had so few issues I got one for work.

I totally sympathize with the driver compatibility concern, but what is the hassle of sticking in a linux usb drive to install? In general, how serious are these driver compatibility concerns for modern laptop hardware?

I don't know. I think most machines are pretty well supported. 4 years ago when I first bought one reading through the forums it seemed kinda hit or miss with wifi and sound. especially since my initial machine had nvidia graphics it seemed like a throw money at the problem and avoid headaches. If it was a desktop, I probably would have installed myself.

The machines I have from system76 are rebadged "Clevos" (I got dog hair in the fan and replaced the fan, which necessitated investigating. My AMD one with original fans is NL50NU) https://www.clevo.com.tw/

The POPOS full disc encryption out of the box was another selling point. I'm not sure thats easy to set up on on a new install.

The support is good, when I had issues going up a major version (I think steam installed something newer than what it was expecting) and I couldn't figure how to get the OS to upgrade despite tons of command line foo, I put a ticket and they pointed me in the right direction.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

#38
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Is this a thin and lightweight laptop? I've been looking for a thin powerful AMD laptop with good Linux support

I have a System76 galp5. It's fairly thin and lightweight. I have mixed feelings about it. Linux support is good. But Windows support is pretty bad. All available drivers are here: https://github.com/system76/windows-drivers but even after installing everything in that repo listed under galp5, I still have a ton of issues including laptop not going to sleep when lid is closed, touchpad occasionally not working until I toggle it on/off from settings, etc. Getting Windows working from Pop OS using Virtual Box was also a massive, fragile headache. I would get it working, but then sometimes when using Visual Studio from inside virtual box it would freeze and the VM would be permanently bricked unless I had previously saved a snapshot.

All this to say that if you care about Linux and only Linux, System76 could be a good choice. But if you need to use Windows at all, I would steer clear of S76 until their Windows support is a little better (also YMMV - I've just had so many issues with Windows on a galp5, but that might not be the case with other models).

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can. Its for people like me who want a linux laptop, but don't want to go through the hassle of installing it. While I could, I just didn't want to spend the time on it, plus setting up some drivers here and there. Thats the value prop. I got one for home use, (Oryx pro with Nvidia) 4 years ago. It worked well enough and had so few issues I got one for work.

I totally sympathize with the driver compatibility concern, but what is the hassle of sticking in a linux usb drive to install? In general, how serious are these driver compatibility concerns for modern laptop hardware?

You'd be surprised by how many software engineers balk at the idea of installing an OS from scratch.

> In general, how serious are these driver compatibility concerns for modern laptop hardware?

If you're not using anything Nvidia related, the process should be smooth as butter. Any Intel or AMD chipset from the past 5-7 years should be well supported by now.

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