HN is the only place on the Internet where I hear about Gemini. Excluding Gemini itself. I'm all in for a simpler Internet, but on HTTP(S), with images and other media if needed
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Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites
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Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites
#32What's the problem that this fixes?
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Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites
#33What's this for only gemini? It seems to not support http, https or gopher even though it kinda mention them ?
Also seems to just segfault when loading a gemini site..
Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites
#34What's the problem that this fixes?
Distraction-free access to information. Like reading a book.
There is nothing about HTML/CSS/JS that prevents simplicity. It is purely how it has been used and abused. You can also disable JS and use user agent stylesheets in any modern web browser.
Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites
#35> TLS with TOFU... So also known as TLS with support for evesdropping. I doubt even an expert would be able to browse the web securely in that model.
> able to browse the web Yeah but this is not a browser for the web.
There's more than one web out there.
Gopher and HTTP used to be about as popular. Now we have other protocols like Spartan[0].
Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites
#36HN is the only place on the Internet where I hear about Gemini. Excluding Gemini itself. I'm all in for a simpler Internet, but on HTTP(S), with images and other media if needed
Fully agree. I am also wondering why simplicity needs its own protocol here. Striving for simplicity is more a philosophical than a technical task.
Edit: The creation of new protocols and technical solutions alone increases cognitive complexity. From this point of view, it is even counterproductive if existing solutions can enable the same.
Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites
#37Does it know any new tricks that lynx can't do?
From what I can see it supports point and click via the mouse? I don't think lynx does. At least the few times I've used it I ended up using tab/cursor keys which gets a bit tedious.
Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Distraction-free access to information. Like reading a book.
There is nothing about HTML/CSS/JS that prevents simplicity. It is purely how it has been used and abused. You can also disable JS and use user agent stylesheets in any modern web browser.
While it doesn't prevent simplicity, it allows and enables distracting complexity. Also a lot of sites just break if you disable js.
Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites
#39kristall is along with geminaut and lagrange, the perfect triptych for wandering the small web! until recently they were the only ones to pass (almost) torture tests [1]! highly recommended [1] gemini://gemini.conman.org/test/torture/
For those who were wondering:
Triptych definition: a set of three associated artistic, literary, or musical works intended to be appreciated together.
Re: Kristall – a browser without support for CSS/JS/WASM or graphical websites
#40Hacker News on Kristall: https://imgur.com/a/lhq8iCw
http, https are disabled by default, they need to be enabled in File/Settings/Generic.
I was hoping it would be a single executable but (on Windows) it's 56 files: 1 exe, 33 dedicated dlls, 22 translation files.
Google Search does not work, it's impossible to get past the cookie consent page: https://imgur.com/a/daGMASS (Same thing happens if one tries to put the search words in the url.)
DuckDuckGo doesn't display a search box either, just links about itself: https://imgur.com/a/UMLKiOv
No search box on Bing either; it's possible to access a page like https://www.bing.com/search?q=hacker+news for example, but the SERP is wrong and says "no results" whatever the words searched : https://imgur.com/a/J2Y4CU6
The modern web is hard to use with simple tools.