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Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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This is quite a tangent but... > Zoom, the app for ensuring the knowledge worker parts of an economy continue to work when there’s a pandemic, How did Zoom achieve this status? I had literally never used or heard of Zoom at home or at work prior to the pandemic, and now many treat it as synonymous with video chat the way that workplaces use Slack for text chat. Was there some crazy marketing strategy?

Well, google was busy only supporting chrome browser for hangouts (yes you could have video in FF but it wouldn’t support blurring or any other advanced features it did in chrome), and Microsoft kept failing with Skype for Business. End of day, when you needed an app for video conferencing that worked for everyone, your choice was mostly zoom. And now we are here

That's another question: when did blurring become a thing? It mostly sucks, and it feel like it's not that hard to make sure that you are fine with what's in your back... If you are not, just don't enable the video, right?

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, google was busy only supporting chrome browser for hangouts (yes you could have video in FF but it wouldn’t support blurring or any other advanced features it did in chrome), and Microsoft kept failing with Skype for Business. End of day, when you needed an app for video conferencing that worked for everyone, your choice was mostly zoom. And now we are here

That's another question: when did blurring become a thing? It mostly sucks, and it feel like it's not that hard to make sure that you are fine with what's in your back... If you are not, just don't enable the video, right?

A lot of people are required to enable video to keep their job.

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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Step 2: Zoom detects what website/app you're screen-sharing and charges Google / Microsoft / Miro etc a fee to enable "Ultra HD" for Zoom users when that site is showing on the screen (or they can join the New Zoom App Partner Program™ and publish the site as an app -- for a small revenue share fee of course)

Step 3: Tons of people stop using Zoom when the Word document they are trying to share becomes unreadable.

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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This is quite a tangent but... > Zoom, the app for ensuring the knowledge worker parts of an economy continue to work when there’s a pandemic, How did Zoom achieve this status? I had literally never used or heard of Zoom at home or at work prior to the pandemic, and now many treat it as synonymous with video chat the way that workplaces use Slack for text chat. Was there some crazy marketing strategy?

It was in the right place at the right time. I had used zoom quite a bit before the pandemic. It was a great alternative to Google hangouts--it ran instantly from your browser and required very little fuss or setup (unlike Skype or desktop apps). Google killed and messed up their video chat apps and zoom was the only real option when the pandemic hit.

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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Reminder: the zoom desktop app has a history of terrible security practices and should not be installed on any machine with data you intend to keep private; use the (hidden with dark patterns) web version instead and never give these people access to your computer.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the bar was pretty low. GoToMeeting, WebEx, etc, were all significantly worse in UI, video stability, features, etc.

Google Meet was there before the pandemic, and Jitsi (for an open source alternative) too.

Google meet wasn’t far behind - but it was behind in quality vs zoom. And it wants to herd every user into getting a google account - if you wanted to just meet online with a random group of people zoom had the fewest hurdles.

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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This is quite a tangent but... > Zoom, the app for ensuring the knowledge worker parts of an economy continue to work when there’s a pandemic, How did Zoom achieve this status? I had literally never used or heard of Zoom at home or at work prior to the pandemic, and now many treat it as synonymous with video chat the way that workplaces use Slack for text chat. Was there some crazy marketing strategy?

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Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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“ Wow is the web a weird application delivery mechanism where people are writing applications and then essentially compiling them down to binaries using WebAssembly, but weirdly shoehorning it into a hypertext framework”

I thought this was an interesting quote from the article that relates back to something I’ve been thinking about as I’ve started to look at writing apps that run any where and realized that forces you into writing a web app, but web apps kind of suck because at the end of the day you’re really writing a website not an app…

I wonder if you could at this point reinvent the browser so it was specialized for web apps not sites, and what that would even look like.

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