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Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account
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#32I was confused by the terminology between Meta, Oculus and Facebook accounts, and which was an upgrade of which. When confronted by the upgrade (I was actually trying to do something else, which required upgrading the account to Meta, which required upgrading the software) I tried the path of least resistance, which was just "log in with your email". I didn't remember if this was how I always logged in, and honestly…
Anytime an account that uses an email as a unique ID is merged with another system that may or may not do the same, you get weird results. I still have some iTunes purchases tied to an iTunes account that somehow has the same email as my main Apple ID but is not tied to that Apple ID.
The Minecraft migration to Microsoft accounts is another excellent example of this.
Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account
#33I sold mine and won't be buying another one, so the purchases are moot any way.
I can't blame you. I'm glad I never gave money to Facebook for an Oculus.
Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course not. Why would GDPR require a company to delete the records of who owns what inside their ecosystem?
Because GDPR puts restrictions on how inactive or deprecated account data can be kept - to prevent mining of forgotten accounts I suspect was the intention
i never heard of this, can you link the gdpr article on this?
Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course not. Why would GDPR require a company to delete the records of who owns what inside their ecosystem?
Because GDPR puts restrictions on how inactive or deprecated account data can be kept - to prevent mining of forgotten accounts I suspect was the intention
I don't think that extends to "forgetting" that you purchased a game so now you have to buy it again. That would be absurd.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because GDPR puts restrictions on how inactive or deprecated account data can be kept - to prevent mining of forgotten accounts I suspect was the intention
I don't think that extends to "forgetting" that you purchased a game so now you have to buy it again. That would be absurd.
They aren’t the only gaming company to interpret GDPR that way and they are arguably target #1 by EU regulators so they don’t have room to misinterpret
Here is one of the provisions of interest:
https://gdpr-info.eu/art-5-gdpr/
Ubisoft also cites GDPR provisions for deletion of inactive accounts:
https://www.gamepressure.com/newsroom/ubisoft-removes-player...
Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course not. Why would GDPR require a company to delete the records of who owns what inside their ecosystem?
Because GDPR puts restrictions on how inactive or deprecated account data can be kept - to prevent mining of forgotten accounts I suspect was the intention
GDPR just says you cannot keep personal data for longer than is required for the purpose it was collected for (with some exceptions where it can be kept longer).
If you have paid for digital goods with an account, the data is clearly required! Deleting an inactive account after say a year is a choice made by the company, not directly imposed by GDPR.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think that extends to "forgetting" that you purchased a game so now you have to buy it again. That would be absurd.
They aren’t the only gaming company to interpret GDPR that way and they are arguably target #1 by EU regulators so they don’t have room to misinterpret Here is one of the provisions of interest: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-5-gdpr/ Ubisoft also cites GDPR provisions for deletion of inactive accounts: https://www.gamepressure.com/newsroom/ubisoft-removes-player...
This is nonsense. While you cannot keep personal data lying around forever with GDPR, deleting accounts after 6 months or a year or inactivity is a choice being made by the company.
They could equally well have said that an account which was inactive for 2 years, or 3 years would be deleted and still be legally compliant.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think that extends to "forgetting" that you purchased a game so now you have to buy it again. That would be absurd.
They aren’t the only gaming company to interpret GDPR that way and they are arguably target #1 by EU regulators so they don’t have room to misinterpret Here is one of the provisions of interest: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-5-gdpr/ Ubisoft also cites GDPR provisions for deletion of inactive accounts: https://www.gamepressure.com/newsroom/ubisoft-removes-player...
> They aren’t the only gaming company to interpret GDPR that way and they are arguably target #1 by EU regulators so they don’t have room to misinterpret
Malicious compliance. They deliberately misinterpret and continue to get pulled up on it. For example, just recently: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-63784393
This completely contradicts any argument that their interpretation of privacy regulation is remotely compliant. They cross the line in their favour relentlessly.
Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
They aren’t the only gaming company to interpret GDPR that way and they are arguably target #1 by EU regulators so they don’t have room to misinterpret Here is one of the provisions of interest: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-5-gdpr/ Ubisoft also cites GDPR provisions for deletion of inactive accounts: https://www.gamepressure.com/newsroom/ubisoft-removes-player...
> They aren’t the only gaming company to interpret GDPR that way and they are arguably target #1 by EU regulators so they don’t have room to misinterpret Malicious compliance. They deliberately misinterpret and continue to get pulled up on it. For example, just recently: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-63784393 This completely contradicts any argument that their interpretation of privacy regulation is remotely…
Malicious compliance maybe but compliance nonetheless - I’m not necessarily defending them here for the record but GDPR has been cited for a lot of inactive account removals recently - meta is already feeling heat from EU regulators - they may not want to take chances.