We're telling them they are doomed with climate change, guilty for past generations sins, they were locked out of school and activities, coerced into a vaccine for something that is harmless to them. I showed my teenage boy chat gp3 and he's like what's the point of school now.
Young adults and mental health: Is more childhood independence the answer?
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Re: Young adults and mental health: Is more childhood independence the answer?
#32I was at the beach the other day, beautiful weather, perfect sunset, etc. The number of people staring at their phones was very high. The number of teenagers, especially girls, taking pictures and seemingly staging events was downright depressing. We will soon look back and realize that social media and phone addiction was worse for people’s health than smoking.
> We will soon look back and realize that social media and phone addiction was worse for people’s health than smoking.
What specific statistics will we look at to realize that social media is worse than 500,000 deaths per year (in the US) due to smoking?
Re: Young adults and mental health: Is more childhood independence the answer?
#33> Chentsova Dutton said America has an international reputation for prizing autonomy, but her study opened her eyes to a more complicated picture. American parents tend to be overprotective when children are young, acting as if kids are going to live at home for a long time, like parents do in Italy. Yet they also expect children to live away from home fairly early for college, like families do in Germany. The result…
That is an interesting point. Couple that with things like cost of living, cost of education, poor training and mentorship in jobs, etc. Although I’m slightly confused by the quote. How do kids in Italy get started navigating real life earlier if they live at home longer? I’m guessing the point there is that they have help in early adulthood while still living at home, but the quote, as written, is a little confusing…
It's common in most of the world for families to have multi-generation households.
The article probably refers to Italy as one country where it's commonplace, meaning the progress into adulthood includes gaining your independence while staying in the familial house.
Re: Young adults and mental health: Is more childhood independence the answer?
#34> Chentsova Dutton said America has an international reputation for prizing autonomy, but her study opened her eyes to a more complicated picture. American parents tend to be overprotective when children are young, acting as if kids are going to live at home for a long time, like parents do in Italy. Yet they also expect children to live away from home fairly early for college, like families do in Germany. The result…
It’s such a strange blend of wanting to let your kids roam while being more aware of dangers that exist, both online and off. It’s tough. For my son, Scouts have been wonderful for his independence. Can’t recommend it highly enough.
> It’s such a strange blend of wanting to let your kids roam while being more aware of dangers that exist, both online and off.
Unaccompanied roaming is, by it's nature, offline-centric.
The primary, actual risks to children who are roaming are those that involve law enforcement and intolerant adults.
What does not present a meaningful risk to unaccompanied children is strangers.
> For my son, Scouts have been wonderful for his independence. Can’t recommend it highly enough.
I was in scouting leadership for 15 years. Units that function in a way that remove adults from the picture are as good as you say. It doesn't come close to replacing what we've taken from kids but it's better than the nothing they have now.
Re: Young adults and mental health: Is more childhood independence the answer?
#35My generation (early GenX) may be the last one to grow up in an environment that didn't systematically screw young people at every possible turn. We didn't have a constant presence of adults and had space to work out issues on our own. We were able to travel for miles in most directions without being barraged by No Trespassing signs - each of them backed up by disproportionate penalties and an ever present risk of li…
It’s amazing that your generation was the last one where things were done right. I don’t think every other generation in history has said that exact same thing.
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#36It's because there's nothing for them to look forward to.
People keep asking why is X group struggling? And there's been enough articles about different groups that X is basically nearly everyone. Things are not getting better for anyone except the extremely wealthy.
Re: Young adults and mental health: Is more childhood independence the answer?
#37My generation (early GenX) may be the last one to grow up in an environment that didn't systematically screw young people at every possible turn. We didn't have a constant presence of adults and had space to work out issues on our own. We were able to travel for miles in most directions without being barraged by No Trespassing signs - each of them backed up by disproportionate penalties and an ever present risk of li…
> In contrast, my sons grew up in a world that is senselessly unforgiving and penalistic, with few breaks from adults and little chance to explore life on their own terms.
Teenage boys in particular now face an incredibly punitive culture in America. Everything is on video. The online mob will form and demand jail time for the slightest thing. How are teenage boys supposed to learn right from wrong?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s such a strange blend of wanting to let your kids roam while being more aware of dangers that exist, both online and off. It’s tough. For my son, Scouts have been wonderful for his independence. Can’t recommend it highly enough.
> It’s such a strange blend of wanting to let your kids roam while being more aware of dangers that exist, both online and off. Unaccompanied roaming is, by it's nature, offline-centric. The primary, actual risks to children who are roaming are those that involve law enforcement and intolerant adults. What does not present a meaningful risk to unaccompanied children is strangers. > For my son, Scouts have been wonder…
Unaccompanied roaming is, by it's nature, offline-centric.
Re: Young adults and mental health: Is more childhood independence the answer?
#39I was at the beach the other day, beautiful weather, perfect sunset, etc. The number of people staring at their phones was very high. The number of teenagers, especially girls, taking pictures and seemingly staging events was downright depressing. We will soon look back and realize that social media and phone addiction was worse for people’s health than smoking.
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Re: Young adults and mental health: Is more childhood independence the answer?
#40I was at the beach the other day, beautiful weather, perfect sunset, etc. The number of people staring at their phones was very high. The number of teenagers, especially girls, taking pictures and seemingly staging events was downright depressing. We will soon look back and realize that social media and phone addiction was worse for people’s health than smoking.
> We will soon look back and realize that social media and phone addiction was worse for people’s health than smoking.
This would be the most optimistic end result of social media and phone addiction. It’s very difficult to even measure someone’s long term social media addiction enough to look back and say “they were better off without it.”