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The legislature agreed to the changes.

I have asked this repeatedly. Maybe you can answer it Outside of the quote from the governor where she makes this statement, WHERE is this agreement? Under what authority was the agreement made, WHO in the legislature agreed to it? Under what authority did this person(s) make the agreement I ask because currently the NY legislature is not in session, and no vote could have taken place which is normally how one gets a…

It reads like either a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signing_statement sort of scenario, or that there's been an agreement with leadership to push through an amending law as soon as possible.

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#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have asked this repeatedly. Maybe you can answer it Outside of the quote from the governor where she makes this statement, WHERE is this agreement? Under what authority was the agreement made, WHO in the legislature agreed to it? Under what authority did this person(s) make the agreement I ask because currently the NY legislature is not in session, and no vote could have taken place which is normally how one gets a…

It reads like either a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signing_statement sort of scenario, or that there's been an agreement with leadership to push through an amending law as soon as possible.

Given that the original law was passed with a veto proof majority, what happens if the actual members of the legislature simply refuse to pass an amending law?

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What is the justification for being able to change the terms after the votes have taken place?

My understanding is that it is more a consequence of politics than the system... Sure you have a veto proof majority on this bill, but what about what comes next?

The governor is able to stop "tyranny of masses" by their veto power. Almost no bill in our partisan age is able to pass with a veto proof majority. So the governor has the ability to prevent good outcomes for specific members of their party in the legislature in the future. Sure a budget that makes the party and governor look good will pass, but members who "step out of line", will find that they can't "bring home the bacon" in terms of what is allocated to their district.

So could the bill be pushed through unmodified despite an governor's veto? Of course. The system expressly allows this given a 2/3rds vote. But the legislature needs to weigh their options:

1.) Have all members push the bill forward anyways 2.) Have just enough members push the bill forward 3.) Accept the governor's revisions and move the bill forward 4.) Drop the bill

As a representative it is hard to tell which of 1/2 you are choosing in the moment. The issue is that 2 may paint a target on your back. The members of the party opposing the governor are less incentivized to care about the veto. So do you want the governor to hold a grudge with "1 of X" representatives of their own party who sided against them? Granted the legislature is about 2/3rds democrat, so for a break with the governor to happen maybe half the democratic legislature would have to break with the governor.

3 Is appealing over 4, since you are able to claim victory for now. Something was passed after all, and the name of the bill alone is usually enough to make a good ad come re-election. and if the issues really are so severe, this is just another victory for the future you.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

#35

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The government's #1 excuse for anything they want to do without having to actually justify it: "Safety"

The government's will mysteriously synched with corporate interests

The word of the day is "Regulatory Capture".

(Yes, I know that's two words, "don't @ me" as the youths would say.)

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It reads like either a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signing_statement sort of scenario, or that there's been an agreement with leadership to push through an amending law as soon as possible.

Given that the original law was passed with a veto proof majority, what happens if the actual members of the legislature simply refuse to pass an amending law?

There's probably a quid pro quo that motivates them to amend it.

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#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It reads like either a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signing_statement sort of scenario, or that there's been an agreement with leadership to push through an amending law as soon as possible.

Given that the original law was passed with a veto proof majority, what happens if the actual members of the legislature simply refuse to pass an amending law?

That would be a good reason to start calling them.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The government's #1 excuse for anything they want to do without having to actually justify it: "Safety"

The government's will mysteriously synched with corporate interests

“The only safe way to do _____ is for our competitors to have to play by our rules, on our turf, and with us making sure they don’t do anything we consider unsafe.”

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

#39

What is the justification for being able to change the terms after the votes have taken place?

The legislature agreed to the changes.

The governor told the legislative sponsors that they had to accept these changes or she would veto the bill. It was accept this reduction, or nothing.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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tl;dr Kathy Hochul sabotaged the version of the bill passed by the state legislature so that it requires only what Apple and Samsung are already doing The version that came out of the legislature would have required OEMs to sell individual components instead of only larger assemblies. For example, if something on a macbook board breaks they have to sell the individual component. Currently Apple/Samsung require you to…

> for several hundred dollars

more to the dangerous point: for whatever amount they choose, even if they are specifically pricing it to make repair unreasonable.

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