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Re: Spotifyd

#31

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> but honestly hasn't much improved the lot of artists and musicians As a consumer of music, why is this my problem?

This is a rhetorical question, right? If you consume music then surely, you want the artists and musicians you support to be paid fairly for their work.

Why is that “surely”?

Re: Spotifyd

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Honestly -- just why ? We now have a few years of experience with music streaming. And what we've learned is that -- sure, it's convenient -- but honestly hasn't much improved the lot of artists and musicians. It's a new exploitative system that's perhaps slightly better than the old exploitative system. We can do better. Literally, locally, and for friends. I used to do MPD, but now I'm glad for things like mstream…

Meh, I always pirated music before Spotify. Then I got a free test account and now am a happy paying customer for forever. As soon as someone with a reasonably similar library and better linux integration than a half abandoned electron app comes along i'll switch.If Artists feel so bad about they should form a union and collectively bargain for a better position.

> If Artists feel so bad about they should form a union and collectively bargain for a better position

They can't, major record labels and major artists are working with Spotify to fuck everyone else.

Re: Spotifyd

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post #24

Honestly -- just why ? We now have a few years of experience with music streaming. And what we've learned is that -- sure, it's convenient -- but honestly hasn't much improved the lot of artists and musicians. It's a new exploitative system that's perhaps slightly better than the old exploitative system. We can do better. Literally, locally, and for friends. I used to do MPD, but now I'm glad for things like mstream…

Why are people using a streaming service instead of buying thousands of dollars worth of CDs (or for that matter, iTunes)? Is this a question?

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#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a rhetorical question, right? If you consume music then surely, you want the artists and musicians you support to be paid fairly for their work.

Why is that “surely”?

You're right, my bad, I assumed most folks would have a base level of empathy.

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#35

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> but honestly hasn't much improved the lot of artists and musicians As a consumer of music, why is this my problem?

Potentially great music is not being made as a result of people not devoting time and energy to the craft I guess. Also just general empathy.

You guess?

Music is like the last thing that will stop being made because people can’t professionalize their craft.

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> However Spotify doesn't agree. My naive assumption is that Spotify would love to, but the record labels don't agree.

Could be. When Spotify was young they were extremely developer and ecosystem friendly. It gets progressively worse and worse over time. The biggest change I personally suffered from is when they pulled out of their integration with Djay, a DJ app. This integration was amazing for bedroom DJs like myself, being able to use Spotify to organize DJ music and DJ directly from it. Then they sunset the entire integration. N…

> Do the labels prefer Tidal over Spotify for some reason? Or did Spotify decide to get out of this game for reasons of their own?

Me, being a naive speculator: Maybe it has something to do with the time. The original contracts between spotify + labels were probably written 15 years ago. Over time they might have changed numbers like how big spotify's cut is, but never revised the rest of the blueprint contracts.

So, my bet is laziness / not caring enough.

Re: Spotifyd

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However Spotify doesn't agree. My naive assumption is that Spotify would love to, but the record labels don't agree.

Could be. When Spotify was young they were extremely developer and ecosystem friendly. It gets progressively worse and worse over time. The biggest change I personally suffered from is when they pulled out of their integration with Djay, a DJ app. This integration was amazing for bedroom DJs like myself, being able to use Spotify to organize DJ music and DJ directly from it. Then they sunset the entire integration. N…

> Do the labels prefer Tidal over Spotify for some reason? Or did Spotify decide to get out of this game for reasons of their own?

Yes, labels and artists get a bigger cut of the subscription cost from Tidal. And before the buy-out by Square last year, Tidal's parent company was majority-owned by Jay-Z and had lots of buy-in from music industry insiders.

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#38

Always great to see new ways to integrate with Spotify. I think that if you're paying for a Spotify Premium subscription you should be able to stream music wherever you want! However Spotify doesn't agree. If this is based on librespot its using stuff Spotify doesn't support and could easily shut down for unauthorized clients any time. Their supported paths are iOS and Android SDKs for mobile, and the Web Playback SD…

> I assume that always going into auto-recommendation mode is intentional to juice playback stats.

That’s one of my favorite features, sometimes I’m too distracted driving or doing something else to manage Spotify, but that doesn’t mean I want the background music to stop entirely.

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#39
What i find the most interesting is the zeroconf option [0].

For example you can set up your spotifyd daemon on a raspberry and have it always connected to speakers.

Now when someone is in your local network they can choose your spotifyd daemon and play spotify over the speakers without connecting to the speakers directly via bluetooth etc.

[0] https://spotifyd.github.io/spotifyd/config/File.html (after the configuration file example)

Re: Spotifyd

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However Spotify doesn't agree. My naive assumption is that Spotify would love to, but the record labels don't agree.

Could be. When Spotify was young they were extremely developer and ecosystem friendly. It gets progressively worse and worse over time. The biggest change I personally suffered from is when they pulled out of their integration with Djay, a DJ app. This integration was amazing for bedroom DJs like myself, being able to use Spotify to organize DJ music and DJ directly from it. Then they sunset the entire integration. N…

> When Spotify was young they were extremely developer and ecosystem friendly. It gets progressively worse and worse over time.

This is somewhat tangential, but I feel like this happens often, as internal power and culture shifts away from being developer-driven to consumer- or manager-driven.

This doesn't happen for every company, thankfully.

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