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Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by capableweb »

coldpie wrote: post #3

Awesome. Been using XFCE for ages. It hits just the right spot of modern features and usability without trying to re-invent the desktop paradigm for the Nth time. If you just want "Win98, but in 2022," you've found your desktop environment. WRT this update, the Thunar updates look fantastic. The File Highlight feature looks especially cool. I can imagine using that to highlight really frequently used folders in my ho…

> WRT this update, the Thunar updates look fantastic

Nice! I'm a Thunar user (but not XFCE in general) and missed that updates to Thunar was included until I saw your comment. As someone who deals a lot with images, the preview is a very welcome change! Really happy with Thunar.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by capableweb »

Kukumber wrote: post #23

It is in my favorite Desktop Environment I moved to XFCE when Canonical announced going back to Gnome 3 I wish they'd replace the Gnome filepicker too, that is the worst piece of garbage i ever seen, you can't even manually type a path!!

> I wish they'd replace the Gnome filepicker too, that is the worst piece of garbage i ever seen, you can't even manually type a path!!

Don't have it in front of me right now, but can't you hit CTRL+L to bring up the "address bar" and manually write the path there?

CTRL+L works in a lot of places to enter paths, from web browsers to local disk browsers.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by coldpie »

senko wrote: post #24
coldpie wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are there concrete plans to migrate to wayland? Yes, of course. Two minutes of searching would have led you here: https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap Come on, sph, this is not Reddit. > of course you're getting downvoted because you dared utter the W-word. Come on people, this is not Reddit. I downvoted them because I think it's rude to complain about how others choose to spend their time contributing to o…

> Two minutes of searching would have led you here: https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap That page says: "For Xfce 4.18, the plan is to ensure our applications are working acceptably on Wayland" Since this is the 4.18 release and Wayland is not mentioned in the blog post, it's reasonable to ask if that plan is still in place. (I do agree it's up to XFCE maintainers and contributors to set the pace, if any, fo…

> it's reasonable to ask if that plan is still in place

Do you think it is more likely that that user found the wiki page, performed the same analysis as you, then came back here to ask their question without mentioning any of the research they did; or they just turded out the first question they could think of and did zero research trying to answer it for themselves?

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by rwmj »

dmm wrote: post #19
coldpie wrote: post #3

Awesome. Been using XFCE for ages. It hits just the right spot of modern features and usability without trying to re-invent the desktop paradigm for the Nth time. If you just want "Win98, but in 2022," you've found your desktop environment. WRT this update, the Thunar updates look fantastic. The File Highlight feature looks especially cool. I can imagine using that to highlight really frequently used folders in my ho…

As an enthusiastic XFCE user, do you mind answering a question? How do you usually launch applications? I can appreciate the discoverability provided by a nested start menu but I've grown very fond of text launchers with autocomplete provided by gnome, mac os, dmenu, etc.

For browser windows and terminals I have special Launcher buttons on the panel. For the rest, sometimes from the menu, often straight from the command line in a terminal.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by tux »

I've used XFCE (since Mar 9th, 2008 until Apr 7th, 2021) now using "i3-wm v4.21" as my main window manager on all computers. But I still use a lot of XFCE software like Thunar been most notable. Thunar has received much needed love, thank you to all developers making it better. Thunar now has "Split View" (dual pane mode) this is one of the reasons why I used more "PCManFM" or "ranger", but unlike Thunar "PCManFM" never had an option to hide "menu" in GTK only in QT. And now Thunar's menu/toolbar is more customizable. File Highlight is a nice addition, I've been using custom "LS_COLORS" for terminal for a while now. Now all the Thunar needs is embeded file info dialog similar to side pane and maybe ability to have toolbar vertical (on left or right) ;-)

EDIT: One of the best choices XFCE team made is to not use/enable CSD [1] by default. This would of killed XFCE project for those of us who love classic XFCE look. Please never force users to use CSD, make it an option(al). Thank you!

[1] Window Header Bars - All header bars of Xfce Windows/Dialogs by default will be drawn by the window manager now (Xfwm4). Some dialogs optionally support 'GtkHeaderBar' (CSD) which can be enabled via a xfconf setting.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by rwmj »

bgorman wrote: post #2

XFCE should be spending all of its development efforts on supporting Wayland. The project's priorities are clearly not in the right place to ensure the future growth of the project. Market share will continue to decline until wayland support is added, no matter how great any new features are.

Does Wayland support network transparent applications yet?

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by znpy »

bgorman wrote: post #2

XFCE should be spending all of its development efforts on supporting Wayland. The project's priorities are clearly not in the right place to ensure the future growth of the project. Market share will continue to decline until wayland support is added, no matter how great any new features are.

yes, but nah.

Yes, wayland is the future, is cool, is better and everything.

And yet, I don't really care about it. I'll stay on Xorg as long as XFCE stays on Xorg. I'll move to wayland as soon as XFCE moves to wayland.

And I know that the Xfce people already have plans for wayland support.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by alxlaz »

Does anyone know of a good way to disable that braindead window fading "feature" in GTK? If you look at the changelog, the text in the inactive window is barely readable. I have to squint to read it on most monitors.

Fading it is also unnecessary in most applications. Gnome apps need to do it because they have no titlebar, but this isn't a problem in most cases, and xfwm can draw titlebars just fine.

I know I can manually overload the GTK theme's backdrop properties but I was kind of hoping someone on the Interwebs found a way that doesn't require me to drag .css hacks over umpteen computers.

Background: a good chunk of my work involves things like comparing simulation and measurement results among multiple applications/windows. Text in inactive windows being unreadable is a little counterproductive when I try to do that. I begrudgingly put up with the huge widgets but having to squint at screens for eight hours a day is not fun.

(FWIW, Adwaita is even worse).

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by rwmj »

josteink wrote: post #10
bgorman wrote: post #2

XFCE should be spending all of its development efforts on supporting Wayland. The project's priorities are clearly not in the right place to ensure the future growth of the project. Market share will continue to decline until wayland support is added, no matter how great any new features are.

I don’t know. Wayland support is very important (tm) to us Wayland-users, but I don’t know how the rest of the world feels about that. It could be like that whole kerning -thing which is super-mega important to some people, while the rest of the world don’t even notice?

People also complain loudly about Hi-DPI support and tearing with X. I've not noticed either of them being an issue ever. I can play videos fine and I can plug my laptop into a 55" TV, and it all just works (as far as I can tell) with plain old X11.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by [deleted] »

bhattisatish wrote: post #27
dmm wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an enthusiastic XFCE user, do you mind answering a question? How do you usually launch applications? I can appreciate the discoverability provided by a nested start menu but I've grown very fond of text launchers with autocomplete provided by gnome, mac os, dmenu, etc.

Not parent commentator, but in my case I do the following: rofi -show run The above command is mapped to Command-R Similarly Command is mapped `xfce4-popup-whiskermenu` Both land on a search box and you can search to your heart content and select the option that works for you :-)

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