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PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by rakoo »

iandanforth wrote: post #19

Not a single embedded video on the page showing off the platform. Technologists' blindness to product and market building is so painful.

The goal of Peertube and Framasoft, the org behind it, is not product and market building. Product and Market building is exactly what led us to the default video repository being run by a for-profit company with only its own interest at heart, arbitrary censoring based on american feelings for the entire planet, arbitrary demonetizing videos/channels but still getting the revenue stream, mining every bit of data from users for ad placement.

That's not the spirit we want. Peertube is not a product to compete with existing video websites. Peertube is a product you use to self-host your videos, for you, for your band, for your org, for your company, anything. It's about taking control, not selling junk.

EDIT: I fear I might have been unclear, I am in no way affiliated to Peertube

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by raybb »

AstixAndBelix wrote: post #20
raybb wrote: post #17

I love the idea of PeerTube and often browse videos on tilvids (a fairly curated instance). However, lately I've been wishing for a tool where lectures could be hosted that has nice searchable transcripts, allows people have have comments and discussion based on the time. Something kinda like Loom but more oriented around making lectures annotateable by students for referring to later.

Someone could write a server plugin that passes the video's audio through the latest Mozilla's STT language model to get the transcription with timestamps. The tools are already there, if you know how to make it happen you shouldn't wait for a single guy in France to reach feature parity with Google

Basically, what I'd like is an open source version of otter.ai. It's doable but I think the key is making something with a nice design :)

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by explorigin »

kmfrk wrote: post #34

Has anyone here experimented with IPFS to create a mirrored video archive for things like their YouTube channels? I don't hear much about IPFS these days.

IPFS got their fat investment check and got to work on their own crypto-currency (filecoin). I kinda feel like the project lost its way.

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by snvzz »

worldofmatthew wrote: post #9

I tried PeerTube but deleted it after it ignored my custom media profiles for AV1 and silently encoded the videos as AVC. No official way of using FOSS formats because the head of PeerTube does not want give people the choice of cutting off Apple users and the official plugin for creating custom encoding profiles just encoded as default AVC when MY AV1 profile was selected.

Reads like a bug.

Did you file a bug report?

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by AstixAndBelix »

iandanforth wrote: post #27
AstixAndBelix wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

then what's this? https://i.postimg.cc/vTHXhxFC/7089-F268-8-C2-A-4935-A280-841...

A below the fold, secondary tab that contains a link to a separate page with a video?

That's like asking AWS's landing page to have a live database environment embedded into the website. PeerTube explicitely links you to example videos and channels to showcase the platform. If they just embedded a video you wouldn't understand the scope of the project

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by BlueTemplar »

worldofmatthew wrote: post #9

I tried PeerTube but deleted it after it ignored my custom media profiles for AV1 and silently encoded the videos as AVC. No official way of using FOSS formats because the head of PeerTube does not want give people the choice of cutting off Apple users and the official plugin for creating custom encoding profiles just encoded as default AVC when MY AV1 profile was selected.

> because the head of PeerTube does not want give people the choice of cutting off Apple users

Why do you think that ?

AV1 seems to be supported, albeit still with some bugs maybe ?:

https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues?q=is%3Aissue+a...

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by rakoo »

kmfrk wrote: post #34

Has anyone here experimented with IPFS to create a mirrored video archive for things like their YouTube channels? I don't hear much about IPFS these days.

IPFS still has poor performance for very little innovation. Bittorrent still works perfectly fine, and in fact peertube uses webtorrent to distribute content from browser to browser to offload the server. It is perfectly possible to mirror peertube channels on bittorrent

Re: PeerTube v5: the result of 5 years’ handcrafting

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Post by mort96 »

rakoo wrote: post #31
iandanforth wrote: post #19

Not a single embedded video on the page showing off the platform. Technologists' blindness to product and market building is so painful.

The goal of Peertube and Framasoft, the org behind it, is not product and market building. Product and Market building is exactly what led us to the default video repository being run by a for-profit company with only its own interest at heart, arbitrary censoring based on american feelings for the entire planet, arbitrary demonetizing videos/channels but still getting the revenue stream, mining every bit of data fro…

You're proving the point. You see no difference in presenting a product well and "selling junk". The Peertube website's job is to tempt people to try it out. Getting people to use Peertube is the only way Peertube can change anything about the situation where the default video repository is being run by a for-profit company with only its own interest at heart.

That requires what iandanforth refers to as "product and market building".

Making a good, ethical product look attractive isn't evil.

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