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Can’t new regimes simply send someone to execute the retired deposed leader(s)?
That could spark a conflict between the new regime and Venezuela.
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This is what I'm saying. If you call for Putin's death people go nuts but he's responsible for a war that's killed 10s of thousands.
The War in Iraq killed a lot more civilians than that.
And if you call for justice for those responsible, people get even nuttier.
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Someone told me in a bar on K Street the thing Vladimir Putin fears most is being hung from a gas station like Mussolinu, and I suspect that goes for all totalitarians. What scares me is I've met people like that at home in the USA. There is a quote by a KGB defector which I lost the cite for. "There is nowhere to defect to." They can live in luxury, but you cannot buy respect. Folks are allowed to show you, in small…
> Someone told me in a bar on K Street the thing Vladimir Putin fears most is being hung from a gas station like Mussolinu, and I suspect that goes for all totalitarians. Putin has openly said he despises what the west did to Gaddafi and believes thats what they want for him. He not only fears it, but but said he fears for his civilization (Russia). The west makes it pretty easy to be feareful - https://www.cbsnews.c…
>Putin asked what right the west had to assassinate Gaddafi without a trial and destroy all the countries infrastructure
The purposeful destruction of infrastructure is an inexcusable war crime.
But "the west" did not stick a sword up Gaddafi's butt -- that was his own people, enraged by the actions of a totalitarian.
"The West" did not wander into Libya and and lynch a so called world leader who only wants norms followed when said lynch mob has formed.
To kill in this manner is a crime, but it happens when so many laws and norms have been broken it's more akin to manslaughter, more akin to a concentration camp victim losing their temper, seizing a firearm, and executing their former captors.
(As they say in America: "Fuck around, find out.")
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is what I'm saying. If you call for Putin's death people go nuts but he's responsible for a war that's killed 10s of thousands.
The War in Iraq killed a lot more civilians than that.
Ok, I wasn't excluding anyone.
Edit: I believe the first Gulf War was justified. The second however is a war crime. IMO
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I'll have to read up, the few folks I met from there weren't rude to me . (I'm a big fan of personal diplomacy, in the sense I used to loudly joke I might one day become a test case for the Logan Act :-))
I don't believe a thing you've said
>I don't believe a thing you've said
Have we met in real life? I have witnesses.
Don't question my integrity.
I'm not asking you for a letter of recommendation, your opinions are irrelevant.
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#36It's so weird to me how rare it is that the leaders of countries are executed by the population and to even call for that upsets people regardless of what their reign is like. There's almost no incentive to be a good leader since if it all falls apart you'll just end up living luxuriously in another country. Why is there such a high value placed on human life that ignores the impact that person had upon the world? Fe…
Someone told me in a bar on K Street the thing Vladimir Putin fears most is being hung from a gas station like Mussolinu, and I suspect that goes for all totalitarians. What scares me is I've met people like that at home in the USA. There is a quote by a KGB defector which I lost the cite for. "There is nowhere to defect to." They can live in luxury, but you cannot buy respect. Folks are allowed to show you, in small…
"They can live in luxury, but you cannot buy respect."
If they were ok with being hated by the world and some large percentage of their population why would they care about being respected?
I think this is huge divide between sociopaths and normal people. You think everyone cares about honor, respect, and the like but many people just want money and or power.
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#38> Western diplomatic sources told Iran International
> In early-November, an unnamed source at Tehran's Imam Khomeini Airport told Kayhan-London
> Citing an unnamed Iranian source,
> There are also unconfirmed reports that officials are transferring their assets to friendly countries
Basically, "source? trust me bro!"
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#39Who would be the follow-on power if such an event did happen?
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is what I'm saying. If you call for Putin's death people go nuts but he's responsible for a war that's killed 10s of thousands.
The War in Iraq killed a lot more civilians than that.
Yep, and if it wasn't for the Iraq war, there are plenty of other wrongs throughout human history we could point to in order to justify the continuation of any particular evil & injustice.