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Theranos exec Sunny Balwani sentenced to 13 years in prison

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Re: Theranos exec Sunny Balwani sentenced to 13 years in prison

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If you were someone that was a defendant in a case like this where another case finished before you that ended in prison sentence, the natural assumption would be yours is heading the same way. The psychology of that must be intense. If you're the type that accepted that fate, you can start making proper plans for your incarceration too. But these are people that scammed others, so I would assume not the type to acce…

Carlos Ghosn agrees with your sentiment.

Re: Theranos exec Sunny Balwani sentenced to 13 years in prison

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I'm happy he got even more than Holmes (11 vs 13). The book made him sound worse than she was and he was the mastermind internally at keeping the staff working and building a culture of misdirection and obedience. He was firing people on an almost daily basis for a while whenever someone questioned their bullshit. Holmes was the showpiece, who got to play the pretend female Steve Jobs visionary role to the press and…

I think Holmes played a bigger role in the fraud than people give her credit for, whether she "meant to" defraud people or not, I don't think she was like "I'm gonna deceive all these people" but rather "I need to keep the money flowing so that I can develop the technology to make this a reality".

That said, of the two of them, Balwani was the true gangsta. He came in seemingly already knowing how to run a criminal enterprise, and applied those principles to Theranos.

Re: Theranos exec Sunny Balwani sentenced to 13 years in prison

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post #3

I'm happy he got even more than Holmes (11 vs 13). The book made him sound worse than she was and he was the mastermind internally at keeping the staff working and building a culture of misdirection and obedience. He was firing people on an almost daily basis for a while whenever someone questioned their bullshit. Holmes was the showpiece, who got to play the pretend female Steve Jobs visionary role to the press and…

shocked a brown male got a worse sentence than a white female for the same crime

Re: Theranos exec Sunny Balwani sentenced to 13 years in prison

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> Mr. Balwani’s former business partner and ex-girlfriend, Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes, was sentenced last month to 11¼ years for four counts of criminal fraud tied to her now defunct blood-testing startup.

> U.S. District Judge Edward Davila, who oversaw both trials, could choose to give Mr. Balwani more time in prison than Ms. Holmes because he was found guilty on additional counts, lawyers said. Judge Davila could find that investors suffered a larger loss due to Mr. Balwani’s fraud, or that Mr. Balwani recklessly put patients at risk of death or serious bodily injury, both of which could add years to his sentence.

> “VCs invest in very strange ways,” Judge Davila said.

So do courts apparently.

Re: Theranos exec Sunny Balwani sentenced to 13 years in prison

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post #3

I'm happy he got even more than Holmes (11 vs 13). The book made him sound worse than she was and he was the mastermind internally at keeping the staff working and building a culture of misdirection and obedience. He was firing people on an almost daily basis for a while whenever someone questioned their bullshit. Holmes was the showpiece, who got to play the pretend female Steve Jobs visionary role to the press and…

I read the book and also agree with this. She was the CEO, but he "ran" the company. He also put millions of his own money into it to keep it afloat. He should've been the "adult supervision", so to speak.

I've seen a lot of excuses from CEO's for why they aren't responsible for their actions but "I didn't have adult supervision" takes the cake.

Re: Theranos exec Sunny Balwani sentenced to 13 years in prison

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the book and I disagree. Ultimately creating a toxic work environment is not why they are going to jail, but for deceiving the public, and investors. Holmes (the person playing Steve Jobs) lead that. I have little doubt that if the genders were reversed that Holmes sentence could be easily twice Sunny's.

This - I mentioned in another thread when Holmes was sentenced that even if convicted she'll not spend that long in jail (maybe 5 years, most of it on license I would guess?). I suspect Balwani will serve most if not all of the 13 years. I've no wish to defend either of these people given what they've done, I just think it's worth pointing out that ignoring the disparity doesn't make it go away.

I thought federal sentences did not have parole? So a person has to serve their full term.

Re: Theranos exec Sunny Balwani sentenced to 13 years in prison

#38

If you were someone that was a defendant in a case like this where another case finished before you that ended in prison sentence, the natural assumption would be yours is heading the same way. The psychology of that must be intense. If you're the type that accepted that fate, you can start making proper plans for your incarceration too. But these are people that scammed others, so I would assume not the type to acce…

You can also change to pleading guilty at that point. It is very late but still has an impact on sentencing. It may also affect parole decisions.

Re: Theranos exec Sunny Balwani sentenced to 13 years in prison

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> "It would certainly not be unprecedented if Balwani decides to appeal this ruling." So, there's precedent for an appeal?

Eh, it's just clumsily worded. Here's my rewrite:

> Balwani will likely appeal this ruling. Most defendants do.

Re: Theranos exec Sunny Balwani sentenced to 13 years in prison

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I love how I, as a lowly middle-class person, can invest money in a company and if they were pulling the wool over my eyes and I lost my investment, it’s all “oh well, buyer beware”. But let it be some big wigs investing in a disruptive tech (that makes the status quo oh so nervous) then it’s all pitchforks and fire — those devils be damned. Hence I note the faint stench of Denmark in there somewhere.

People went to jail for Enron, no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Kenneth_Lay_and_Jeffr...
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