Hertz to pay $168M to customers arrested due to Hertz’s false police reports

Post by randcraw » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 5:48 PM UTC

stainablesteel wrote: post #24

HarryHirsch wrote: post #12

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But... intent - Hertz had no intent to have customers locked up or threatened by out-of-control cops, so it's all good. When it comes to life-and-limb matters like this intent really shouldn't matter because it's nothing more than a get-out-of-jail card for executives who couldn't care less about the impact of their policies. No one important at Wells-Fargo went to jail either - they set policies which were expected…

intent is one thing, neglect is another

Post by geodel » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 5:49 PM UTC

chickenpotpie wrote: post #7

ergocoder wrote: post #3

Paying fine doesn't seem enough. Someone needs to go to jail.

I hate this ridiculously unfair double standard. If someone costs a company money, we ruin their life. If a company ruins someone's life, we charge the company money. If a cashier at a fast food restaurant takes $30 from the register, they go to jail. If a company steals millions from their workers paychecks, we slap them with a tiny fine.

Post by throw__away7391 » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 5:51 PM UTC

geodel wrote: post #33

chickenpotpie wrote: post #7

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I hate this ridiculously unfair double standard. If someone costs a company money, we ruin their life. If a company ruins someone's life, we charge the company money. If a cashier at a fast food restaurant takes $30 from the register, they go to jail. If a company steals millions from their workers paychecks, we slap them with a tiny fine.

What is double standard? Who do you want to put in jail for this: front line employee? legal guy? finance guy? CEO? or all of them? Or is it just like "Some one need to go to jail, I just don't know or care who that will be and I do not have time for that" So as per example your example the guy who filed the report be sent to jail even though he was following company policy, though in this case made a mistake. How it…

Post by nickff » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 5:53 PM UTC

avgDev wrote: post #11

chickenpotpie wrote: post #7

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I hate this ridiculously unfair double standard. If someone costs a company money, we ruin their life. If a company ruins someone's life, we charge the company money. If a cashier at a fast food restaurant takes $30 from the register, they go to jail. If a company steals millions from their workers paychecks, we slap them with a tiny fine.

In my opinion, which may be unpopular, a CEO who earns many times more than a regular employee should ensure that there are policies in place that prevent a regular employee or the "system" ruining a customers life. They should be held individually responsible if it can be proved in court that they ignored the issues.

Post by xwolfi » Mon, Dec 05, 2022, 5:55 PM UTC

jakelazaroff wrote: post #22

fallingknife wrote: post #14

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Intent always matters. And it is absolutely plausible that a rental car could be marked stolen through a bureaucratic error. If fact, in this case, it's more than plausible. It's pretty much inconceivable that a rental car company would intend to just say "fuck you in particular" to a few customers and try to put them in jail. Those customers should obviously get their judgment money, and Hertz should pay a heavy pri…

"A rental car company" didn't do anything. Humans working at a rental car company did. Maybe it was a "bureaucratic error" that fraudulently reported the cars as stolen. That bureaucracy didn't spontaneously emerge from dust. Humans built it. Why should humans not face legal repercussions for the havoc they've wreaked on their victims' lives?