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Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by Rhapso »

cheald wrote: post #26
Rhapso wrote: post #17

maybe I have this wrong, but it sounds like they heard the rabble rousing and made a well timed good marketing move. No surprise. But it does make me sad when a political stance is a marketing move.

I have no problem with it if their political stance actually lines up with the marketing move. If folks are mad that your competitor likes to kick puppies, it's totally fair game to say "Hey, we provide the same thing, and you don't have to finance puppy-kicking if you use us."

I hope you are right, and the order of things is as you say. If not we are trading one evil for another.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by Lazare »

slowpoke wrote: post #22
cheald wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most sane people support sane IP legislation. It's perfectly reasonable for IP holders to want to have legal recourse against the bad guys. There are lots of people making a lot of money selling a lot of illegal merchandise online. What people protest about SOPA is that it gives tools to companies (with a history of abusing the recourses granted to them by law) that are akin to a wrecking ball intended to be used as…

>Most sane people support sane IP legislation. Sane IP legislation is no IP legislation. I don't know why we are still clinging to the ridiculous concept of being able to own abstract concepts. The true insanity is IP in the first place.

I support, in principle, the concept of IP, and the right of IP holders to enforce their rights, and I hope everyone else on Hacker News does too.

The big questions aren't "should IP even exist as a concept", but instead "how limited IP should be", "what rights IP ownership should give", and "what avenues are available to enforce those rights".

Don't forget, "IP protection" is a really broad concept, and it's more than just patent trolls and DMCA takedowns issued by corporations on content they don't even control: It also includes, for example, the ability to release code under your open source license of choice and then see it enforced through the courts.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by mappu »

Lazare wrote: post #2

I moved all my domains from GoDaddy to Namecheap a while ago. The experience was really smooth, and Namecheap's interface is a TON easier to work with. Although I support the idea of switching domains from GoDaddy to protest their support of SOPA, I sort have to wonder why anyone technically oriented hasn't done so already. Is there ANYTHING to recommend them other than name recognition?

GoDaddy also has a larger variety of ccTLDs available (for instance, namecheap doesn't sell .it or .es).

But i'm sure there are lots of other registrars that support those domains and not this act.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by swalsh »

cheald wrote: post #15
cdr wrote: post #14

Note that while Namecheap doesn't support SOPA, they clearly do support some form of new IP legislation: "not in favor of SOPA as it has been proposed", "... only a surgical strike is necessary." Whatever comes after SOPA/PROTECT IP - assuming they're defeated - Namecheap may well endorse.

Most sane people support sane IP legislation. It's perfectly reasonable for IP holders to want to have legal recourse against the bad guys. There are lots of people making a lot of money selling a lot of illegal merchandise online. What people protest about SOPA is that it gives tools to companies (with a history of abusing the recourses granted to them by law) that are akin to a wrecking ball intended to be used as…

May I inquire why cheald was downvoted? His post seemed reasonably well written, and, at least in my opinion, contributed to the conversation. I was to be under the impression down-voting in regards to disagreement was discouraged.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by seldo »

Totally independently of their SOPA stance, I would recommend Namecheap over GoDaddy. I've been using Namecheap for years; they are reliable and have a sane (if not terribly pretty) user interface.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by guywithabike »

seldo wrote: post #35

Totally independently of their SOPA stance, I would recommend Namecheap over GoDaddy. I've been using Namecheap for years; they are reliable and have a sane (if not terribly pretty) user interface.

I switched to Namecheap after I got bit in the ass by the RegisterFly fiasco. Namecheap has been great to me ever since. I highly recommend them, despite their spammy-sounding name.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by o2sd »

cheald wrote: post #15
cdr wrote: post #14

Note that while Namecheap doesn't support SOPA, they clearly do support some form of new IP legislation: "not in favor of SOPA as it has been proposed", "... only a surgical strike is necessary." Whatever comes after SOPA/PROTECT IP - assuming they're defeated - Namecheap may well endorse.

Most sane people support sane IP legislation. It's perfectly reasonable for IP holders to want to have legal recourse against the bad guys. There are lots of people making a lot of money selling a lot of illegal merchandise online. What people protest about SOPA is that it gives tools to companies (with a history of abusing the recourses granted to them by law) that are akin to a wrecking ball intended to be used as…

> Most sane people support sane IP legislation.

Too ambiguous and vague. IP legislation that was written at the time of the constitution is perfectly suitable for the modern age without the need to extend forever.

> It's perfectly reasonable for IP holders to want to have legal recourse against the bad guys.

What is reasonable is a LIMITED monopoly on the copying of an artistic medium as long as it 'promotes the arts and sciences'. The goal of copyright and patent law is to maximise the benefits of art and technology TO SOCIETY, not to some corporation. The method of doing this is to grant a LIMITED TIME monopoly over a creation as an incentive to create, not to make corporations more profitable. Once that LIMITED TIME has passed, the creation enters the public domain and society as a whole accrues the benefits. Having infinitely extendable copyrights/patents, copyrights owned by corporations renders the purpose of copyright/patents NULL AND VOID, because society never accrues the benefit associated with the cost (i.e. the monopoly).

> There are lots of people making a lot of money selling a lot of illegal merchandise online.

No, there isn't. There are some, always have been, always will be, because when a market for goods or services is inefficient, it changes the risk/reward ratio for 'cheaters'. Look at the market for drugs for example. The risks are huge, but the rewards are ridiculously higher in proportion. As long as the risk/reward ratio is skewed (i.e. the market is inefficient), there will always be 'cheaters' or 'criminals' in that market. Turning your country into a police state might be one way to stop that, but it may also kill the market you are trying to protect.

Re: Namecheap.com: We say no to SOPA

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Post by chc »

sontek wrote: post #20

Does namecheap have free DNS? I have 25 domains on godaddy and thinking about moving them, but I will need to be able to manage nameservers through whoever I switch to since right now thats all done through godaddy. Also, whats the cost of transfering?

Yep, they offer free DNS hosting. I've used them as my primary DNS and registrar for years without issue.
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