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A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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Post by loeg »

Alupis wrote: post #21
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forget that - Google states to the media they had reviewed the situation and had decided to uphold his ban. Good luck convincing them to admit their “appeal” system, and their media review, were mistakes. Google is too arrogant for that.

It might be worth remembering we only have one side of the story here. How do we know we can thoroughly trust the Dad any more than we can thoroughly trust Google? Perhaps there are more pictures Dad took the article doesn't know about? Perhaps Google can't verify it was indeed Dad's child in the images? Perhaps there is more to the story than what the article lets on...perhaps not. We will never really know.

SFPD investigated the other photos, too, and determined there was no crime.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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Post by formerly_proven »

> Mark did not remember this video and no longer had access to it, but he said it sounded like a private moment he would have been inspired to capture, not realizing it would ever be viewed or judged by anyone else.

Recontextualisation is one hell of a drug.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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Post by josephcsible »

Alupis wrote: post #21
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forget that - Google states to the media they had reviewed the situation and had decided to uphold his ban. Good luck convincing them to admit their “appeal” system, and their media review, were mistakes. Google is too arrogant for that.

It might be worth remembering we only have one side of the story here. How do we know we can thoroughly trust the Dad any more than we can thoroughly trust Google? Perhaps there are more pictures Dad took the article doesn't know about? Perhaps Google can't verify it was indeed Dad's child in the images? Perhaps there is more to the story than what the article lets on...perhaps not. We will never really know.

The police investigated and verified that Google's accusations were completely false.

Also:

> we only have one side of the story here

In real court, if you don't show up to tell your side of the story, you're considered to be in the wrong by default. Why should the court of public opinion be any different, when Google has had the chance to tell their side but chose not to?

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

kadoban wrote: post #24
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Potentially yes, if you use a personal account for GCP. Don’t do it. If you have to use GCP, use a burner account… because Google is absolutely asinine right now. I would not trust Google if they were a hired employee to turn on my sprinklers in the morning. Edit: For this reason, I am actually all in favor of having GCP, AWS, Azure, etc declared utilities. Unless there is a crime, we have a right to an account. Your…

Doesn't Google famously link accounts that have ever had anything to do with each other, and ban them as a group? I recall some businesses getting their play store accounts banned because some dev did sketchy stuff separately, or the other way around.

If so, treat everything that Google offers as ephemeral. They deserve no additional respect.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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Post by para_parolu »

Alupis wrote: post #21
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forget that - Google states to the media they had reviewed the situation and had decided to uphold his ban. Good luck convincing them to admit their “appeal” system, and their media review, were mistakes. Google is too arrogant for that.

It might be worth remembering we only have one side of the story here. How do we know we can thoroughly trust the Dad any more than we can thoroughly trust Google? Perhaps there are more pictures Dad took the article doesn't know about? Perhaps Google can't verify it was indeed Dad's child in the images? Perhaps there is more to the story than what the article lets on...perhaps not. We will never really know.

We have one side of the story because the other side (huge corporation) didn’t give any information and decided to keep ban. No transparency there.

Ps. This “we will never really know” is triggered me. This phrase used by Russian propaganda when they got caught in crimes every damn time.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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Post by FeistySkink »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #12
bagels wrote: post #7

Does getting your google account blocked prevent you from using GCP? There are so many stories of people losing access to google accounts that it seems way too risky to use GCP when this sort of thing can happen.

Potentially yes, if you use a personal account for GCP. Don’t do it. If you have to use GCP, use a burner account… because Google is absolutely asinine right now. I would not trust Google if they were a hired employee to turn on my sprinklers in the morning. Edit: For this reason, I am actually all in favor of having GCP, AWS, Azure, etc declared utilities. Unless there is a crime, we have a right to an account. Your…

Anecdotal, but I know somebody who got their personal Google account blocked and then the company they work for GCP account blocked just because their names "looked" the same as somebody else's on the sanction list, even though it was a different person. I'm not sure they ever got the personal one back.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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Post by autotune »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #12
bagels wrote: post #7

Does getting your google account blocked prevent you from using GCP? There are so many stories of people losing access to google accounts that it seems way too risky to use GCP when this sort of thing can happen.

Potentially yes, if you use a personal account for GCP. Don’t do it. If you have to use GCP, use a burner account… because Google is absolutely asinine right now. I would not trust Google if they were a hired employee to turn on my sprinklers in the morning. Edit: For this reason, I am actually all in favor of having GCP, AWS, Azure, etc declared utilities. Unless there is a crime, we have a right to an account. Your…

GCP is so awful to deal with directly their sales people ghost you after you submit your LLC info to raise limits. Then the sales person you were working with initially gets sacked, and weeks later a new one comes on board and tries to pick up where you left off again.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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Post by layer8 »

josephcsible wrote: post #30
sekh60 wrote: post #3

This story broke the camels back for us when it first appeared here and got us to migrate our email to protonmail and a domain we bought.

I wish we had a portable email address format, like phone numbers are, instead of being inherently tied to a provider.

Owning a domain is close enough.

Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal

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Post by rosnd »

josephcsible wrote: post #30
sekh60 wrote: post #3

This story broke the camels back for us when it first appeared here and got us to migrate our email to protonmail and a domain we bought.

I wish we had a portable email address format, like phone numbers are, instead of being inherently tied to a provider.

Buy a domain name, now you have a portable email address.
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