KDE runs on the Apple M2 with full GPU acceleration

Post by tambourine_man » Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 9:15 PM UTC

kitsunesoba wrote: post #27

sofixa wrote: post #21

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The hardware is pretty good. Utterly unmaintainable, unserviceable and unapgradeable, extremely overpriced tiering (e.g. adding storage or RAM which you have to do at purchase time), with limited options (e.g. i cannot stand glossy screens with shitty reflections everywhere causing eye strain), but still very good. However the software (macOS) is pretty shit and IMO hard to adapt to coming from any other OS. Raw perf…

Serviceability is improved (though still not amazing) in all the machines with chassises redesigned during the "M" era — the "notched" MBP 14/16 and Air have easily accessible bottom screws (no need to remove rubber feet first) and don't have batteries glued in. Keyboards can be changed independently from the top case too. Notably, many Windows laptops fail on both of those counts (like the LG Gram which hides screws…

Post by tambourine_man » Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 9:31 PM UTC

tambourine_man wrote: post #31

kitsunesoba wrote: post #27

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Serviceability is improved (though still not amazing) in all the machines with chassises redesigned during the "M" era — the "notched" MBP 14/16 and Air have easily accessible bottom screws (no need to remove rubber feet first) and don't have batteries glued in. Keyboards can be changed independently from the top case too. Notably, many Windows laptops fail on both of those counts (like the LG Gram which hides screws…

Macs, for me, are the software. This is something that became pretty evident during the Intel era. And I bought Macs exclusively when the hardware was both much slower and pricier than PCs (68k and PPC), because I loved the software so much. Funny to read such an opposite opinion. I don’t mind the pretty casing, but it’s icing on the cake.

Post by kitsunesoba » Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 9:43 PM UTC

ultrarunner wrote: post #12

CameronNemo wrote: post #3

Question for those in the know: are there any substantial changes from M1 to M2? I'm sure lots of tuning took place, but is there any major component that was completely overhauled?

Another question for those in the know: there are what seem to be tons of weird GPU problems on macOS under M1— weird cursor tails, choppy scrolling, and very occasional panics that derive from GPU drivers. Are there any workarounds for unstable GPU behavior that were discovered during the RE & driver implementation? Edit: I've directly observed these on my machine, and it doesn't look to be an isolated incident. The…

Post by pram » Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 9:46 PM UTC

tambourine_man wrote: post #33

tambourine_man wrote: post #31

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Macs, for me, are the software. This is something that became pretty evident during the Intel era. And I bought Macs exclusively when the hardware was both much slower and pricier than PCs (68k and PPC), because I loved the software so much. Funny to read such an opposite opinion. I don’t mind the pretty casing, but it’s icing on the cake.

On a second thought, there where some transformative hardwares though. The iMac 5k for me, almost a decade later, is still better than anything other vendors have to offer. It’s my childhood dream monitor. Such a shame that they never sold it separately. The M series laptops seem like an inflection point as well. A fanless powerhouse with more than a day's work of battery life and best in class monitor and trackpad.

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 9:48 PM UTC

david_allison wrote: post #15

ultrarunner wrote: post #12

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Another question for those in the know: there are what seem to be tons of weird GPU problems on macOS under M1— weird cursor tails, choppy scrolling, and very occasional panics that derive from GPU drivers. Are there any workarounds for unstable GPU behavior that were discovered during the RE & driver implementation? Edit: I've directly observed these on my machine, and it doesn't look to be an isolated incident. The…

Agreed with other commenter: I'd disregard the reports. Been using an M1 for 6 months now on macOS. One kernel panic when closing the lid. Solid machine and no issues with the GPU.