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Re: Whitehouse.gov petition to veto SOPA

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Post by viraptor »

JonnieCache wrote: post #4
akavlie wrote: post #3

I expect that this petition will be just as effective as all the others.

Governmental e-petitions: ignoring the public more efficiently than ever before. Actually now in britain we have it set up so whenever one of these gets 100,000 votes, it must be debated in parliament. One of the few useful or interesting things cameron has done. Of course they are quite rightly not bound to do anything more than debate it, and in the long run it will probably just be a more efficient way of shutting…

I think you're spreading FUD really. Have a look at current UK petitions which have passed the 100k votes:

fuel prices - http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/347 (small decrease implemented, plans for the future shared)

immigration - http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/19658 (basic plans shared, recently implemented changes listed, already heard some people having visa issues, so something is happening)

summer riots - http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337 (no direct actions, but response means pretty much "this is happening anyways", there's some more information about what the local authorities can do)

Hillsborough 1989 - http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2199 (accepted, disclosure will happen)

financial education - http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/8903 (this one does look like a non-answer, but maybe they're really doing the reviews now)

private pensions - http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1535 (no response yet, only crossed the line recently)

While I'm not crazy about all the answers, there was some effect (or at least an explanation or a commitment to the original plan). They're quite far from "a more efficient way of shutting people up" the way it's presented in the comments here.

Re: Whitehouse.gov petition to veto SOPA

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Post by 18pfsmt »

wdewind wrote: post #30
nostromo wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be sure to read the petition -- unlike most of them, it's actually smart political commentary: It mocks SOPA by having whitehouse.gov itself link to a website that's infringing copyright. The joke is that whitehouse.gov could itself be removed from the DNS system under SOPA. This is the first use of the White House petitioning system that I think is actually really clever. (Honorable mention: Petition to Please Take…

I did. I think 'cute' is a better term. Rest assured this will get just as ignored as any other. Please call your rep.

What if your Rep is Polis?

Re: Whitehouse.gov petition to veto SOPA

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Post by neilparikh »

I'm in Canada, and I've realized that SOPA would damage me too, since the domain would be removed from the DNS. People here are suggesting calling their representatives, but which one should I call? Would they even bother listening to someone, who ate the end of the day, is not going affect their chance of reelection? I'd still like to be able to do something since SOPA and Protect IP are quite horrible laws.

Re: Whitehouse.gov petition to veto SOPA

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Post by ktom »

dmauro wrote: post #16

Can't sign in or register in Chrome 15 ?

Oddly enough, I browsed around to another page and was able to create an account from there.

You apparently just cannot create an account from that particular page.

For whatever reason account creation doesn't work from the 'Stop SOPA' petition page.

Re: Whitehouse.gov petition to veto SOPA

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Post by lazugod »

18pfsmt wrote: post #32
wdewind wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did. I think 'cute' is a better term. Rest assured this will get just as ignored as any other. Please call your rep.

What if your Rep is Polis?

(Assuming Polis is one of the sponsors of SOPA)

Call them anyways. Mention that you're from their district.

Re: Whitehouse.gov petition to veto SOPA

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Post by lkx »

wdewind wrote: post #6

I was on a conference call w/ Zoe Lofgren (CA congress woman who is on the Judiciary fighting the hell out of this bill) and a bunch of NYC tech companies last weekend and she said petitions are essentially ignored, and instead to make phone calls to your reps and directly into the capital. This isn't to say don't sign this, but if you are really concerned, the absolute bottom line is phone calls. Anything you can do…

If Congress can be bought, why not expose the people doing the buying, and their lobbyists, and exert pressure on them instead of writing or calling Congressmen who don't care?

Re: Whitehouse.gov petition to veto SOPA

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Post by nostromo »

lazugod wrote: post #37
18pfsmt wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if your Rep is Polis?

(Assuming Polis is one of the sponsors of SOPA) Call them anyways. Mention that you're from their district.

Polis is actually "one of us" -- he made a good amount of money doing startups. He opposes SOPA. In this case, call him up and send him some love for doing the right thing.

He's a pretty awesome guy -- check him out here entering the lyrics to "The Internet is for Porn" from Avenue Q into the congressional record: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owyNvlVJ1qE

Re: Whitehouse.gov petition to veto SOPA

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Post by redthrowaway »

joshuahedlund wrote: post #20
wdewind wrote: post #6

I was on a conference call w/ Zoe Lofgren (CA congress woman who is on the Judiciary fighting the hell out of this bill) and a bunch of NYC tech companies last weekend and she said petitions are essentially ignored, and instead to make phone calls to your reps and directly into the capital. This isn't to say don't sign this, but if you are really concerned, the absolute bottom line is phone calls. Anything you can do…

This. Still, as long as Obama hasn't signed NDAA yet there should be one for that too.

Please don't reply with "this". It's a kind of lazy shorthand that doesn't add anything and lowers the overall level of conversation, so you'll be downvoted for it.

That aside, welcome to HN. I hope you enjoy it.

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