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How safe is ayahuasca? Large-scale study explores
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#32Bad trips are a real risk with all psychedelics. I don't like the attitude in psychedelic communities that there's "no such thing as a bad trip, only a challenging one". I had a couple bad trips. It felt like living in hell for a literal eternity. It's almost impossible to describe the agony that the human mind is capable of experiencing. It's absurd how much suffering the human mind can experience. The main message…
I took mushrooms three years ago and immediately gained a pervasive baseline anxiety in my life. Haven't been able to shake it since. Wouldn't recommend if you have any issues with anxiety in your life beforehand.
This is a risk that many psychonauts seem unwilling to accept.
Hope you're doing okay. That anxiety is something that's almost impossible for people to understand if they haven't experienced it.
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#33Bad trips are a real risk with all psychedelics. I don't like the attitude in psychedelic communities that there's "no such thing as a bad trip, only a challenging one". I had a couple bad trips. It felt like living in hell for a literal eternity. It's almost impossible to describe the agony that the human mind is capable of experiencing. It's absurd how much suffering the human mind can experience. The main message…
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
But only the state of being intoxicated. No one asks if you binged so much you threw up because otherwise "it didn't count".
No, there are many people who will say you're not drinking properly if you haven't passed out, lost memory, spewed, done something stupid, etc. The argument above is exactly the same with the same qualifier that of course not everyone (or even many) hold that attitude.
When people say that it's meant in jest more than when psychonaughts tell you, you haven't taken enough because you haven't fully broken down your psyche.
It's not really comparable.
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#352.3% requiring medical attention is surprisingly high. This seems orders of magnitude higher than classic psychedelics. It is likely this is greater than simply combining DMT and an MAOI.
Its probably as simple as saying certain people shouldn't take it fast talking man at end of commercial: “dont take if you’re bipolar/schizo/pregnant/have suicidal ideations or if anyone in your family has had this either” tada!
There are a lot of people walking around with bipolar who don't know they have it. Among others reasons, this can happen because they will not seek treatment for hypomania (a good mood) and maybe not connect the dots in their behavior patterns. A bad chemical experience could tip them over the edge. This happened to someone close to me.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
The closest thing I have to it is doing mushrooms and throwing up makes you feel amazing and the high really kicks in. Granted the initial nausea doesn’t feel good.
You need to drink ginger ale:) Am I on HN or Shroomery?
Did it a dozen times in college, those days are far behind me :)
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#37Bad trips are a real risk with all psychedelics. I don't like the attitude in psychedelic communities that there's "no such thing as a bad trip, only a challenging one". I had a couple bad trips. It felt like living in hell for a literal eternity. It's almost impossible to describe the agony that the human mind is capable of experiencing. It's absurd how much suffering the human mind can experience. The main message…
I took mushrooms three years ago and immediately gained a pervasive baseline anxiety in my life. Haven't been able to shake it since. Wouldn't recommend if you have any issues with anxiety in your life beforehand.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I have some sort of PTSD from a very humbling mushroom trip almost 15 years ago. Never had anxiety attacks before that.
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#39Bad trips are a real risk with all psychedelics. I don't like the attitude in psychedelic communities that there's "no such thing as a bad trip, only a challenging one". I had a couple bad trips. It felt like living in hell for a literal eternity. It's almost impossible to describe the agony that the human mind is capable of experiencing. It's absurd how much suffering the human mind can experience. The main message…
We can get bad trips with any type of drug. Even weed and alchohol. It can be so bad that we never want to try it again. It's all apart of the journey and the experiment. I've had a couple bad trips, and I'm glad I had them. They created clear fear, paranoia and terror that I'll always remember. It caused me to appreciate the 'real' world a lot more.
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#40Bad trips are a real risk with all psychedelics. I don't like the attitude in psychedelic communities that there's "no such thing as a bad trip, only a challenging one". I had a couple bad trips. It felt like living in hell for a literal eternity. It's almost impossible to describe the agony that the human mind is capable of experiencing. It's absurd how much suffering the human mind can experience. The main message…
Could you elaborate on what exactly you experienced (and your takeaways) from your bad trip?
Do you feel like set and setting or your previous mental state going into the trip caused the bad trip?