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Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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@dang - maybe let one twitter story through to the home page?

I didn't know HN was biased like this, found out about this tweet on Reddit and was wondering why it wasn't front page here.

That 'bias' is part of the reason it has worked so well over the years.

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Is there precedent anyone can point to where these sorts of wild dramatic moves under new leadership led to turning a large company around into success?

Steve Jobs returning to Apple comes to mind

Jobs had his rough edges, but Musk makes him look like the voice of reason, patience, and tact.

And, importantly, while Jobs had strong opinions, he was often willing to let them be challenged, and to be convinced to change his mind.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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I hope that the wheels stay on sufficiently to get an idea of where EM wants to take Twitter and find out what kind of value it can bring. Having said that, he really made it obvious to me as an eng that the severance is the option I would be taking. Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people. But somebody who takes over the company and accrues…

>Going "hardcore" on things can be fun, at the right time in your life, for the right reasons, with the right people.

I don't see what it is about the Twitter product that would require going "hardcore". It's a lose-lose situation; I don't think Twitter's problems would be solved by engineering harder; and you will spend 80 hrs/wk where you can end up fired because people aren't as deterministic as cars.

It's a completely bewildering move; I'm not sure what Elon was thinking when he even decided to buy Twitter. What's most surprising it seems he has no thesis for the company or how it can be made better or what was so terrible about it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steve Jobs returning to Apple comes to mind

What did Steve Jobs do? He wasn't even at the company for half the layoffs that happened, and wasn't CEO until they were over. He killed some boondoggles 6 months after being formally named CEO (and over a year after NEXT was acquired).

Looks like I'm not the only one who made the association:

    David Heinemeier Hansson
    November 5, 2022
    Apple fired 4,100 when Steve Jobs returned in 1997 
    https://world.hey.com/dhh/apple-fired-4-100-when-steve-jobs-returned-in-1997-57ed6bc6

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

they're going to have to rehabilitate him or make it clear he's not in operational paths 'chief creative officer' sort of thing with a sandbox always wondered if he bought twitter to boost spacex IPO; for now, good thing that it's private or it would be getting hosed to mortgage twitter fail like tesla is tesla build quality and self-driving snafus may get assigned to him as well

Who is "they"? Elon has controlling interest in SpaceX and all the largest other shareholders are largely his friends. At Tesla while he doesn't have controlling interest, he does have de-facto control because of 2/3 majority required on the board for certain actions that could remove him from control. Short of some legal action forcibly removing him from the companies from breaking a law, he's not going anywhere.

sorry, 'they' meaning whatever PR firm he hires

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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Yeah given paulg's tweets I'm wondering if our free speech absolutist view as a website, actually holds here.

I always found HN much more VCist than free speech. any comment criticizing plutocrats tends to get downvoted

Well HN is run by plutocrats. Who pay a lot of money to run the site. I’d rather have HN with this obvious bias than no HN at all.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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How will Musk's failure at Twitter affect market confidence in his other ventures?

You’ve diagnosed failure after a month? How many puts have you bought at what price? This is the perfect moment to cement your reputation as a stock market expert.

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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How will Musk's failure at Twitter affect market confidence in his other ventures?

You’ve diagnosed failure after a month? How many puts have you bought at what price? This is the perfect moment to cement your reputation as a stock market expert.

Twitter isn’t on the stock market anymore...

Re: Twitter to employees: all office buildings closed, badge access suspended

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@dang - maybe let one twitter story through to the home page?

Yeah given paulg's tweets I'm wondering if our free speech absolutist view as a website, actually holds here.

Turn showdead in and tell me this website is a “free speech absolutist zone”.

I mean, subjectively most of those accounts deserve to be dead, but don’t pretend this is something it isn’t.

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