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Re: 99Wh Battery Linux Laptop

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Post by eloff »

jchw wrote: post #28
slashdev wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also a searing indictment of Linux. I get less than half the battery life on my Alienware AMD laptop under Linux than under Windows. I don't know what Linux is doing wrong here, but it is not energy efficient.

Does that laptop support Linux? If not, I'd expect a key reason is simple; it likely is not using all of the power saving functionality supported by the laptop. This might include things like S0ix, throttling, proper sleep states, etc. There's a lot of factors going in, and I think by and large it is not actually an endemic issue with Linux itself. Consider for example that x86 Chromebooks have no issue fully exploit…

It does not. I use some extra software to try and improve that, which helps, but it also means the laptop is noticably laggy on battery. But you're right that is likely part of the equation. I don't think it's the whole story though, I see other people complaining of wise than Windows battery life on laptops that do support Linux.

Re: 99Wh Battery Linux Laptop

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Post by jay_kyburz »

kitsunesoba wrote: post #18
GreyStache wrote: post #11

I'm typing this on my 1 year old Tuxedo InfinityBook (S 14 Gen6, not the Pro). Now I'm definitely spoiled by the Lenovo X1 series, but I'm not happy. The hardware is a rebrand from clevo-computer.com - some minor spare parts can be had from there. The system is VERY prone to overheating, the fan is noisy. They claim the fan noise is "not annoying" which is only true in the short term. I have opened up the bottom shel…

Not having owned one personally, the questionable quality of the engineering and QC of Clevo-based laptops has what has kept me away from them. Reviews for them are almost always some shade of "this is mediocre" or "this would be nice if not for X, Y, and Z". While they still have a ways to go, I'm more hopeful for Framework since they do their own engineering, and I'm interested to see what system76 does in the self…

Put me in the category of people who will never buy Clevo again. Its Junk.

Sending a laptop back for warranty repair is a massive pain as well. I ended up just working around the broken stuff until I bought a new machine.

Re: 99Wh Battery Linux Laptop

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Post by spaniard89277 »

gandalfgeek wrote: post #19

Isn't it a searing indictment of the entire Intel laptop chip lineup that a MacBook Air M1 has half the battery capacity (50Wh) while giving easily twice the battery life with as good or better performance -- and with no fans!

It seems that we're not getting anything close to the M1.

I'll stick to second-hand thinkpads for now, but I'd really like to have a thinkpad with some ARM resembling M1.

We had a good shot with frame.work but it seems nobody is going to make other boards nor are keyboards really replaceable with thinkpad-like keyboards, so the swappable parts concept falls very short for now.

Re: 99Wh Battery Linux Laptop

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Post by calvinmorrison »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #30
calvinmorrison wrote: post #22

My lenovo X220 has the most insane battery life I have ever had. I had the 9 Cell battery (compared to the 3 cell) with the additional backpack chassis battery that clipped on below. Just by itself the 9 cell was good for close to 10 hours. Extended battery was: 64.38Wh and the extended 9 cell was 94Wh. About a decade down the road, I still have about 50% battery life left in it at max charge and it still holds its o…

I have an X200 with a 9 cell battery, bought new a while ago, but I think 4h max is what I get, if I lower brightness and only run Emacs or so. How do you manage to run 10h? Does the X220 somehow use less?

Probably not a new oem battery? The OEM 9 Cell was really good. Also - definitely need to tune it down with powertop, you can suspend most of the stuff like usb only the fly, also using and ssd over hdd.

Though, to be fair, this one had an HDD originally and has an "HDAPS" system. It's a built in gyroscope that will park the head of the disk if it notices the laptop is in free fall. how silly and fantastic that is

Re: 99Wh Battery Linux Laptop

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Post by imiric »

GreyStache wrote: post #17
GreyStache wrote: post #11

I'm typing this on my 1 year old Tuxedo InfinityBook (S 14 Gen6, not the Pro). Now I'm definitely spoiled by the Lenovo X1 series, but I'm not happy. The hardware is a rebrand from clevo-computer.com - some minor spare parts can be had from there. The system is VERY prone to overheating, the fan is noisy. They claim the fan noise is "not annoying" which is only true in the short term. I have opened up the bottom shel…

One of the things I really considered is that if nobody gives these "independent" Linux-focussed vendors a chance, then Linux-on-the-desktop will forever remain a non-factory option and a second-class citizen in support manners.

That's not the way the market works. How about vendors focus on delivering a quality product, with good hardware and software, proper QA and support, and fair prices? Hell, I'm sure many Linux users would be willing to pay a premium if all the other aspects are there.

Linux will never be a mainstream option with these low effort products.

Re: 99Wh Battery Linux Laptop

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Post by zdragnar »

eloff wrote: post #31
jchw wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does that laptop support Linux? If not, I'd expect a key reason is simple; it likely is not using all of the power saving functionality supported by the laptop. This might include things like S0ix, throttling, proper sleep states, etc. There's a lot of factors going in, and I think by and large it is not actually an endemic issue with Linux itself. Consider for example that x86 Chromebooks have no issue fully exploit…

It does not. I use some extra software to try and improve that, which helps, but it also means the laptop is noticably laggy on battery. But you're right that is likely part of the equation. I don't think it's the whole story though, I see other people complaining of wise than Windows battery life on laptops that do support Linux.

I've got an lg gram that I use for day-to-day life, and the battery on linux and windows is more or less identical.

I think the biggest thing is not having a discrete GPU.

Re: 99Wh Battery Linux Laptop

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Post by daneel_w »

Do 10 hours of battery life "while surfing the web with Wi-Fi" really strike anyone as a strong argument these days? I'm a bit uncertain. I got 9 hours of the same out of my 2017 MacBook Air's measly battery when it was new 5 years ago. I know for a fact I don't need 14 CPU cores to get my browsing habits satisified. This laptop is trying to be a "premium business workstation" by packing a CPU that's crazy powerful for laptop standards, but with only 10 hours of battery life "while surfing the web with Wi-Fi" - due to said workstation CPU choice - it's not gonna last even 3 hours doing the workstation type of stuff they're trying to market it for. What a gadget...

Re: 99Wh Battery Linux Laptop

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Post by zamalek »

> Configure your InfinityBook Pro 14 optionally with the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Ti and turn your lightweight business laptop into an ultra-portable gaming console!

Why are so many Linux laptops NVIDIA? It know that we have the OS kernel + blob userspace option now, but it's still early days. My desktop is AMD, my laptop is NVIDIA, and the difference is night-and-day.

I would honestly have an IGPU in a laptop over NVIDIA, but even that option seems few and far between (this specific laptop being an exception).

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