People constantly whine about chromes monopoly on HN.
When someone makes a blink-based browser, they whine about blinks monopoly.
When someone forks firefox ...
Pulse Browser – An experimental Firefox fork
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Re: Pulse Browser – An experimental Firefox fork
#32Fix the terrible history page and I'll switch because it'll tell me that the dev team is prioritising the right things, existing, basic features over new, probably unwanted ones . For a laugh, check out this bug[1] for the history page, extant since Firefox 11!, that means deletion is incredibly slow and tiresome. What makes me laugh even more is that history is stored in a SQLite database, meaning that deletion shou…
This appears to be a case of something that I've known as "the BBBB problem" - should we optimise algorithms that will rarely be used in a way that makes computation time explode?
I mean, who removes history entries by selecting thousands of them manually? Okay, this guy, but who else?
I don't remember who named it like that, but the associated anecdote was about typing "BBBB" somewhere in Excel(I think it was the function search input), and how unlikely it was to ever happen.
Personally I've pasted the wrong thing into search bars more than once and they exhibit a range of behaviours.
Re: Pulse Browser – An experimental Firefox fork
#33Fix the terrible history page and I'll switch because it'll tell me that the dev team is prioritising the right things, existing, basic features over new, probably unwanted ones . For a laugh, check out this bug[1] for the history page, extant since Firefox 11!, that means deletion is incredibly slow and tiresome. What makes me laugh even more is that history is stored in a SQLite database, meaning that deletion shou…
Mozilla has landed a partial fix for this[1], which is currently on the nightly branch and should be available with 108.
[1] https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/autoland/rev/04e6abff2792
Re: Pulse Browser – An experimental Firefox fork
#34I'm not sure what this is offering over normal Firefox other than not having to turn off telemetry, install ublock ( and the other mentioned add-ons), and making use of user.js myself? Also if you're making an issue of providing software with no telemetry then your website should probably not include cloud insights tech that: "collects web vitals from the actual devices your visitors are using".
Hi, I am a dev on Pulse Browser. I want to clarify our current development direction (I haven't significant updated the website recently). We have been moving further away from privacy and towards developing/iterating on features faster than Firefox is willing to, along with providing sane defaults. For example, we have been experimenting with a opera/vivaldi-like method of accessing Firefox's sidebar. Whilst you cou…
Currently the 3rd most requested feature on Mozilla Connect is native vertical tabs: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/native-vertical-tabs-li...
Any chance we could see something like this in Pulse Browser or is that something that just requires touching too much of the underlying code base to be viable? ^^
Re: Pulse Browser – An experimental Firefox fork
#35I'm not sure what this is offering over normal Firefox other than not having to turn off telemetry, install ublock ( and the other mentioned add-ons), and making use of user.js myself? Also if you're making an issue of providing software with no telemetry then your website should probably not include cloud insights tech that: "collects web vitals from the actual devices your visitors are using".
Hi, I am a dev on Pulse Browser. I want to clarify our current development direction (I haven't significant updated the website recently). We have been moving further away from privacy and towards developing/iterating on features faster than Firefox is willing to, along with providing sane defaults. For example, we have been experimenting with a opera/vivaldi-like method of accessing Firefox's sidebar. Whilst you cou…
> Sorry about Vercel's insight stuff, not sure how that got enabled,
How do you "accidentally" enable such user-hostile tracking? This gives quite a bad image of the site and the associated project. Will you "accidentally" enable telemetry as well on some future versions of Pulse?
Re: Pulse Browser – An experimental Firefox fork
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm glad to see someone still has the courage to work on browsers - which is increasingly declared "infeasible". Well done. > We have been moving further away from privacy and towards But sorry, I literally stopped reading at that point. The only feature that people want and need from browsers, and the only reason to even glance twice at yet another Firefox fork is enhanced privacy and cast-iron control over what a b…
> The only feature that people want and need from browsers ... is enhanced privacy and cast-iron control over what a browser is doing. ... client web application firewalls, different, customisable jailing schemes, detailed easy to understand monitoring, file monitors, inviolable fine-grained per-io-device permissions, better Tor and IPFS integration That's what you're interested in at least, I don't care about these…
Anyway, once again, well done. It seems to me that mainstream "web
browsers" have become new "operating systems", but without the
visbility, structure and purpose of actual operating systems.
Re: Pulse Browser – An experimental Firefox fork
#37What does "increases work productivity" even mean? Is this a problem with the original Firefox?
If firefox starts to add more and more stuff no one wants to use, yes.
Re: Pulse Browser – An experimental Firefox fork
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Hyper minimalistic UI"
I'm glad to see someone still has the courage to work on browsers - which is increasingly declared "infeasible". Well done. > We have been moving further away from privacy and towards But sorry, I literally stopped reading at that point. The only feature that people want and need from browsers, and the only reason to even glance twice at yet another Firefox fork is enhanced privacy and cast-iron control over what a b…
> I'm glad to see someone still has the courage to work on browsers - which is increasingly declared "infeasible".
It’s new browser engines which are increasingly declared unfeasible. Browsers themselves are a dime a dozen.
Re: Pulse Browser – An experimental Firefox fork
#39Firefox is already fast in a lot of ways. For example, "Recalculate Style" is dead slow on Chrome compared to firefox. I don't know how but it's night and day (over a second difference for 10k+ nodes). Maybe something to do with https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/performance/bestprac... A better firefox would be a better Chrome that copies optimization technique from firefox. Because "better" means improving the…
> A better firefox would be a better Chrome
I don't like the idea of my web browser being owned by Google or anyone else who made their fortune collecting people's personal data to use against them.
A better firefox would be a firefox that cared a bit more about people's privacy by default, but as long they keep caring enough to let me disable what I don't like I'll happily stick with firefox as it is.
Re: Pulse Browser – An experimental Firefox fork
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hi, I am a dev on Pulse Browser. I want to clarify our current development direction (I haven't significant updated the website recently). We have been moving further away from privacy and towards developing/iterating on features faster than Firefox is willing to, along with providing sane defaults. For example, we have been experimenting with a opera/vivaldi-like method of accessing Firefox's sidebar. Whilst you cou…
> Sorry about Vercel's insight stuff, not sure how that got enabled, How do you "accidentally" enable such user-hostile tracking? This gives quite a bad image of the site and the associated project. Will you "accidentally" enable telemetry as well on some future versions of Pulse?
If you were using their browser, you wouldn’t have to worry about that :)