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Tech’s talent wars have come back to bite it

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Re: Tech’s talent wars have come back to bite it

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Post by trashtester »

hoseja wrote: post #25
nindalf wrote: post #13

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This decision matters because the NYT influences other journalists to a large degree. The person who took that autocratic decision was AG Sulzberger, the 37-year old publisher and chairman of the NYT. Surely a man wielding so much power and influence would have earned the post through merit and hard work, right? In reality it’s a hereditary post of the Sulzberger family. It’s shocking that a man who is a product of n…

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Not only does this mirror Ye's antisemitism, it's also inaccurate. The NY times is controlled by his family for generations. Essentially, it's a family business.

And it's pretty common for control of family businesses to be inherited. Second, with only 1 Jewish grandparent, even the link to Judaism is rather thin, unless you use the definition of Jew that was used in Germany in the 30s and early 40s.

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Post by FlyingSnake »

nindalf wrote: post #13
ciphol wrote: post #11

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This is typical NYT reporting on tech. "I literally heard it from NYT reporters at the time. There was a top-down decision that tech could not be covered positively, even when there was a true, newsworthy and positive story. I'd never heard anything like it." [1] [1] https://twitter.com/KelseyTuoc/status/1588231892792328192

This decision matters because the NYT influences other journalists to a large degree. The person who took that autocratic decision was AG Sulzberger, the 37-year old publisher and chairman of the NYT. Surely a man wielding so much power and influence would have earned the post through merit and hard work, right? In reality it’s a hereditary post of the Sulzberger family. It’s shocking that a man who is a product of n…

quis custodiet ipsos custodes.

You lose faith in media once you know that the same journalistic scrutiny is applied to the person at helm of NYT.

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Post by mistrial9 »

lambdasquirrel wrote: post #16
larrymyers wrote: post #3

The feels like exceptionally lazy reporting in the NYT. What was the expectation, that tech companies would be up and to the right perpetually? That public tech companies are immune to general market downturns? While a lot of tech companies are going through post-pandemic layoffs, most of them have headcounts that are still larger than where they were in Feb 2020, and have valuations that show steady growth. My predi…

The NYTimes has been hostile to tech for as long as I can remember, and my memory on the matter goes back to the 90's when Thomas Friedman was writing about how our jobs were going to India practically every other week. After Google had taken off, that stopped, and they changed their tone to some sort of embrace-and-extend. It's been many many years of this. It's not going to change. The signal-to-noise ratio isn't g…

ten years before that, for readers in Palo Alto, NYT tech analysis of the PC world was the source of hilarity -- so out of touch.

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Post by hoseja »

trashtester wrote: post #31
hoseja wrote: post #25

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Not only does this mirror Ye's antisemitism, it's also inaccurate. The NY times is controlled by his family for generations. Essentially, it's a family business. And it's pretty common for control of family businesses to be inherited. Second, with only 1 Jewish grandparent, even the link to Judaism is rather thin, unless you use the definition of Jew that was used in Germany in the 30s and early 40s.

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Re: Tech’s talent wars have come back to bite it

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Post by taylodl »

bambataa wrote: post #10
ht_th wrote: post #8

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I don't quite understand. I like challenges; I don't mind doing "FAANG Level work", whatever that means, at a small company. I don't care much for salary beyond getting a good salary for my locale. Having a great work/life balance is much more important to me. I don't want a "FAANG Level compensation" if that means I've got to move, work crazy hours, have absurd living expenses, have a lot of interview rounds with st…

What if moving to a FAANG means you work just the same as before, except get paid twice as much and are surrounded by competent colleagues?

I know far too many people working in FAANG to know that what you say isn't true. And double the salary means nothing when you're living in an area who's real estate is 4x more expensive than where you are currently. As far as working with competent colleagues - I have a secret for you: they're not all working at FAANG companies nor do they desire to.

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Post by CalRobert »

ht_th wrote: post #8
Roritharr wrote: post #4

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It's more that you see yourself doing FAANG Level work at other companies without FAANG Level compensation that keeps those dreams going.

I don't quite understand. I like challenges; I don't mind doing "FAANG Level work", whatever that means, at a small company. I don't care much for salary beyond getting a good salary for my locale. Having a great work/life balance is much more important to me. I don't want a "FAANG Level compensation" if that means I've got to move, work crazy hours, have absurd living expenses, have a lot of interview rounds with st…

If you have FAANG level comp, you can structure your life so you are not afraid of layoffs. I don't even have that level of comp but all the same I was a little disappointed I didn't get laid off from my last job because a severance package would've been nice.

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Post by pedrosorio »

aliqot wrote: post #30
hoseja wrote: post #25

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>I don't want to Yepost but an explanation really presents itself. What is yepost?

Ye: Kanye West (recently famous for his antisemitism on twitter posts and interviews with the media)

yepost: presumably posting antisemitic comments

Re: Tech’s talent wars have come back to bite it

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Post by CarbonCycles »

I agree..this article seems very click-baitish, which I sadly clicked on.

What company wouldn't want to hire the best? I've been casually making mental notes of the positions/titles of the groups impacted, and it follows common sense that talent acquisition, administrative, junior level employees, units that no longer support the business mission, and low-performing employees (or ones that don't fit the culture) were let go.

If anything, the article could have pointed out that the performance expectations have been shifted-up a notch or two as the remaining employees (once considered to be high-performers) are now "average". This could become a vicious negative feed-back cycle if not appropriately managed.

sigh Corporate life can definitely be a drag. The holidays can't come fast enough!

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