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a11y is no more a "nice to have" than a wheelchair ramp. It's a legal and moral requirement. This is like saying security is "nice to have"

There are no moral requirements

Certainly not for "free speech" that costs $8/month.

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

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None of those are accessibility issues, they're product design choices.

Accessibility is a product design choice. Accessibility isn't just for the disabled, it affects everyone.

In that sense everything is a product design choice.

The point was that having a landing page that goes to a Sign Up option before showing all the content is not necessarily an accessibility issue, it's a decision made to drive sign ups and therefore revenue and it's not something the a11y team would've been in charge of. Blind people can still navigate the page provided the components are accessible in the same way sighted users can.

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#33

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There are no moral requirements

Certainly not for "free speech" that costs $8/month.

AFAIK that’s a misconstrual. Having a “verified” blue checkmark will cost $8 a month, but using Twitter and saying whatever you want on it will still be free.

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#34
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Not sure why this is downvoted, it's a pretty obvious assessment.

It could be accurate, but it's hard to imagine having this little empathy.

No need to imagine, you are living it.

Accessibility on Quantbase is abysmal. Maybe bring that up before telling others how to handle it on their stuff?

Score of 53 out of 100 with 4 critical issues, knocking it out of compliance.

https://www.accessibilitychecker.org/audit/?website=https%3A...

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#35

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a11y is no more a "nice to have" than a wheelchair ramp. It's a legal and moral requirement. This is like saying security is "nice to have"

There are no moral requirements

Immanuel Kant came up with the idea of a categorical imperative. It’s one of the foundation stones in the field of moral philosophy (or ethics). An example would be the moral requirement not to kill other people. The only way to successfully prove that there are no moral requirements is by arguing the point with people who don’t know any better.

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#36
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Not the ADA specifically, but American courts have generally held that large commercial websites do need to be accessible in terms of the ADA. That's aside from the cruelty of diminishing accessibility on a major social platform, slowly cutting off disabled users, despite its cost likely being a rounding error in the greater scheme of things.

There was a court case in recent memory mandating that universities caption any video they publish. It was specifically relying on the ADA. https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahkim/2019/11/29/harvard-uni... "In the United States alone, approximately 50 million people are considered deaf or hard of hearing. The failure to provide appropriate accommodations to this community is a violation of the Americans with Disabiliti…

If you read through the case history, you can see that the ADA does not have specific language saying something like "websites above size x must be accessible, and that means a, b, and c need to be followed." Much of that has been developed into case law and precedent by judges ruling in numerous lawsuits over the years, which is why it's still a somewhat grey area for edge cases.

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#37

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There are no moral requirements

Certainly not for "free speech" that costs $8/month.

Before it was that private companies could do whatever they wanted, now many trying to impose their will on Twitter’s actions all of a sudden.

Huh

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

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The current website already supports accessibility. The team being fired or laid off doesn't mean that suddenly goes away.

That's why I said diminishing accessibility and slowly cutting off disabled users. This obviously isn't going to happen immediately, but every new feature will be less accessible and maybe even not provide accommodations entirely.

Possibly true but I would imagine the team created an internal Bible of all accessibility requirements and that all of that information wasn't siloed in the heads of each employee in that department.

Re: Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go

#40

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Certainly not for "free speech" that costs $8/month.

AFAIK that’s a misconstrual. Having a “verified” blue checkmark will cost $8 a month, but using Twitter and saying whatever you want on it will still be free.

Too many people think that checkmark = free speech and all us peasants using Twitter without it aren't worthy of the mark.
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