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Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

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Post by zimpenfish »

woah wrote: post #11

The uptick of interest in Mastodon due to Musk buying Twitter doesn’t make sense. Only the left is angry about the acquisition. The right is gleeful. What the left is angry and the right is gleeful about is the idea that Musk is a “free speech absolutist” and might unban Donald Trump and other right wing / fascist media personalities. Guess what: in the fediverse, it would never have been possible to ban Trump in the…

> He would run his own instance, and it would syndicated to all his fans.

He technically does, doesn't he? Truth Social is a Mastodon instance, IIRC.

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

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Post by themitigating »

Karunamon wrote: post #22
metadat wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He stated his true plans privately, these comms were unveiled by the discovery process from the Twitter lawsuit. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33475031 for more details and sources. p.s. thanks to Dan Luu for putting it all online!

Nothing even remotely objectionable there? It's no secret that twitter has been a money-losing toxic cesspit for years. Making the moderation fair and transparent will go miles all on its own.

How was the moderation unfair?

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

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Post by numbsafari »

tablespoon wrote: post #26
metadat wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He stated his true plans privately, these comms were unveiled by the discovery process from the Twitter lawsuit. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33475031 for more details and sources. p.s. thanks to Dan Luu for putting it all online!

Who is that "Jason C"? Also, further down in the chat log there's this: > [redacted]: Hey Elon -my name is Jake Sherman. I'm a reporter with Punchbowl News in Washington I cover Congress. Wonder if you're game to talk about how Twitter would change for politics if you were at the helm? What's with the [redacted]? Does Musk give journalists insulting names in his contact list?

If he wasn’t in the contact list, perhaps that is his phone number.

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

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Post by kzrdude »

cratermoon wrote: post #18
dmitriid wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And most of those servers stopped registrations when the exodus from Twitter began. One reason, so that communities wouldn't get diluted. The other, it's expensive to run this.

I wouldn't say "most". According to that site, of the 4880 instances list, 1909 are close and another ~300 are invite-only. > it's expensive to run this As the hype about Mastodon spiked after Musk bought twitter, I looked at it to see if I could set up an instance, just to experiment. I'm an experienced programmer and systems administrator. After perusing the requirements and installation process, I decided that it…

It's much more than running the service, the instance owner is the moderator of that instance basically, if nobody else fills that role. Lack of moderation will eventually kill an instance (other instances will blacklist it, if it is seen as a safe haven for whatever they don't want to see).

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

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Post by tomrod »

Robotbeat wrote: post #19
metadat wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He stated his true plans privately, these comms were unveiled by the discovery process from the Twitter lawsuit. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33475031 for more details and sources. p.s. thanks to Dan Luu for putting it all online!

That actually seems… pretty reasonable and probably a net good? Why are people so mad about this? The Twitter status quo seems incredibly toxic.

Jack Dorsey seems to be describing Mastodon, unless I misunderstand.

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

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Post by random314 »

metadat wrote: post #28
tablespoon wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is that "Jason C"? Also, further down in the chat log there's this: > [redacted]: Hey Elon -my name is Jake Sherman. I'm a reporter with Punchbowl News in Washington I cover Congress. Wonder if you're game to talk about how Twitter would change for politics if you were at the helm? What's with the [redacted]? Does Musk give journalists insulting names in his contact list?

Jason Calacanis, a wealthy VC friend to elon. Check out the clickable link sources, it's interesting to see how cavalier billionaires are in their private life, the "hard work" consists of mostly just scheming. Not even data-driven in this case, only napkin math: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33475152

Jason Calcanis always had the worst ideas. Classic example of failing upwards.

I remember Jason's mahalo which was supposedly a "human powered" search engine which would out compete flawed algorithmic search of Google. Mahalo eventually became a spam content generator for SEO.

I think he was a tech journalist who failed upwards into becoming a VC. Which reminds me- what is parislemon up to?

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

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Post by kzrdude »

Ericson2314 wrote: post #15
woah wrote: post #11

The uptick of interest in Mastodon due to Musk buying Twitter doesn’t make sense. Only the left is angry about the acquisition. The right is gleeful. What the left is angry and the right is gleeful about is the idea that Musk is a “free speech absolutist” and might unban Donald Trump and other right wing / fascist media personalities. Guess what: in the fediverse, it would never have been possible to ban Trump in the…

It's not god that Elon can see ones DMs. I'm on the left and it's also just a fine time to promote things like federation that are otherwise hard to get non-technical people to care about, regardless of what Twitter ends up doing. Never let a crisis go to waste!

It might be good for everyone to know that "DMs" on mastodon are not even secret, anyone can sniff them if they read the traffic between two instances.

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

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Post by andai »

amelius wrote: post #4

Wasn't it the idea of Musk to give everyone on Twitter absolute freedom of (amplification of) speech?

Yeah, that's the point. Mastodon was created because its developers thought Twitter didn't have enough censorship.

I don't mean to trivialize their achievement, but I thought that was pretty funny.

Re: Mastodon's founder has a vision to democratize social media

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Post by neilv »

metadat wrote: post #28
tablespoon wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is that "Jason C"? Also, further down in the chat log there's this: > [redacted]: Hey Elon -my name is Jake Sherman. I'm a reporter with Punchbowl News in Washington I cover Congress. Wonder if you're game to talk about how Twitter would change for politics if you were at the helm? What's with the [redacted]? Does Musk give journalists insulting names in his contact list?

Jason Calacanis, a wealthy VC friend to elon. Check out the clickable link sources, it's interesting to see how cavalier billionaires are in their private life, the "hard work" consists of mostly just scheming. Not even data-driven in this case, only napkin math: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33475152

I didn't read the whole thing, but my favorite part was:

> Jason: Day zero

> Jason: Sharpen your blades boys [dagger emoji]

> Jason: 2 day a week Office requirement= 20% voluntary departures

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