Seems important to point out that the announcement on this page (https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/) is a followup to https://githubcopilotinvestigation.com/ previously discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33240341 (with 1219 comments)
We've filed a lawsuit against GitHub Copilot
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#32lol @ "open-source software piracy" If I'm being honest I'm a bit annoyed at this. What's the problem and what's the point of this?
Lawyers want $$$$.
Yeah I guess so. This website reads like bullshit bingo from some weird twitter dude trying to sell you his newest product:
"AI needs to be fair & ethical for everyone. If it’s not, then it can never achieve its vaunted aims of elevating humanity. It will just become another way for the privileged few to profit from the work of the many."
Blah blah. Can we get back to the hacking on stuff mentality?
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#33Copilot has always seemed like a blatant GPL violation to me.
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#34I am not against this lawsuit but I'm against the implications of this because it can lead to disastrous laws.
A programmer can read available but not oss licensed code and learn from it. Thats fair use. If a machine does it, is it wrong ? What is the line between copying and machine learning ? Where does overfitting come in ?
Today they're filing a lawsuit against copilot.
Tomorrow it will be against stable diffusion or (dall-e, gpt-3 whatever)
And then eventually against Wine/Proton and emulators (are APIs copyrightable)
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#35Can anyone with Copilot access give a short summary of its response to the prompts: function force=Gmmr2Array(mass1, mass2) and function [force, torque]=pointMatrixGravity(array1,array2) ? I'd love to know if some of my GPL v3 code [1, 2] has landed in the training set [1] https://github.com/4kbt/NewtonianEotWashToolkit/blob/master/... [2] https://github.com/4kbt/NewtonianEotWashToolkit/blob/master/...
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#36It feels weird saying this but, for once, I hope the big evil corporation gets to keep selling their big bad product.
I find the pattern matching and repetitive code generation really helpful. And the library autocomplete on steroids, too.
Meh. Tricky subject.
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#37I wonder if the plaintiffs' code would stand up to scrutiny of whether any of it was copied, even unintentionally, from other code they saw in their years of learning to program? I know that I have more-or-less transcribed from Stack Overflow/etc, and I have a strong suspicion that I have probably produced code identical to snippets I've seen in the past.
But have you done so on an industrial scale?
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#38As a non-lawyer, I am very suspicious of the claim that "Plaintiffs and the Class have suffered monetary damages as a result of Defendants’ conduct." Flagrant disregard for copyright? Sure, maybe. The output of the model is subject to copyright? Who knows! But the copyright holders being damaged in some what? Seems doubtful. The best argument I could think of would be "GitHub would have had to pay us for this, and th…
The parallels to music sampling are somewhat humorous. Where is fair use vs misappropriation? To be discovered!
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#39Ask HN: I want to modify the BSD 2-Clause Open Source License to explicitly prohibit the use of the licensed software in training systems like Microsoft's Copilot (and use during inference). How should the third clause be worded? The No-AI 3-Clause Open Source Software License Copyright (C) All rights reserved. Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided tha…
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#40lol @ "open-source software piracy" If I'm being honest I'm a bit annoyed at this. What's the problem and what's the point of this?
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