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Netflix launches an ad-supported tier
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Re: Netflix launches an ad-supported tier
#32To me, this action speaks of the continued fall of Netflix. If their content can't support them with subscriptions, it probably won't support them with subscriptions plus intrusive brain worms, err, ads. This is a pattern seen all the time in gaming - a subscription service downgrades to F2P, then a vast majority of them go away. The differences between the successes and failures comes down to content, not business m…
haven't F2P games become so widespread because they're much _more_ profitable? I think you're letting your own opinions on this substitute for some kind of business analysis
Re: Netflix launches an ad-supported tier
#33On day 0, this probably doesn't affect most folks here. The option to not have ads remains, and thus far at the same-ish price, hand-waving preexisting upward adjustments.
Most of the brouhaha around this will be pricing-related: will Netflix use this to boost their prices???? Will I have to pay more??????
I dunno. Maybe. Doesn't seem unlikely. I don't really care, though, to be honest. $5 a month doesn't make a huge difference.
What concerns me is that this changes Netflix's incentive structure. Prior to this change, Netflix had one customer base: the viewers. So content was produced with the primary goal of making the viewers happy, enough so to continue paying them month over month.
Now, the shift is towards also having another customer base: advertising buyers. Will they have direct input into what content is produced? If not direct, will they have the right of refusal, or pressure? "We won't put our ads next to that" will likely reduce the amount of "that" being produced. Additionally, since ads are shown per time block, this adds an incentive to produce content that takes longer to watch rather than content that you can enjoy in concentration.
Re: Netflix launches an ad-supported tier
#34Up to 5 minutes per hour of ads, one device, streaming only (no downloading for planes/etc), 720p max, 10% of the catalog unavailable. That’s a hell of a lot of compromises.
> 720p max That is definetly a deal breaker for anyone with a new device post ~2012. I'd class 720p as outdated given todays technology and I can't see anyone going for this. I'm going to make some shameless generalisations here, but a better pilot country would be one that is less ecnonomically developed where people are more likely to have outdated hardware, not the US. > 10% of the catalog unavailable I wonder if…
I’m guessing the 10% is from the non-Netflix stuff they have licensed from others.
Re: Netflix launches an ad-supported tier
#35Up to 5 minutes per hour of ads, one device, streaming only (no downloading for planes/etc), 720p max, 10% of the catalog unavailable. That’s a hell of a lot of compromises.
Not really -- it's a fantastic price point for an individual subscription to watch on your laptop or iPad. Where most people don't care about 720p vs 1080p anyways.
If you're a college student or not making a lot of money, and therefore not traveling a lot -- this is awesome.
Re: Netflix launches an ad-supported tier
#36It's like all the services are increasing their price and decreasing the content/quality. I find that's issue with startup culture where they have lost billions of dollars in name of growth and now they need to recover
It doesn't help that the original appeal of Netflix (having everything at your fingertips) was ruined by media companies starting their own streaming sites
We shouldn't allow vertical integration of streaming services and production. Just like we (in the US, at least) didn't allow vertical integration of movie theaters and movie production for decades (ended only very recently). It'd solve a lot of the problems in this space.
Re: Netflix launches an ad-supported tier
#37Since Netflix is now in the ads game, I can't trust it even if I do avoid the ad-supported tier. I have to assume that they're now gathering my data and making it available to advertisers anyway. Another service destroyed (for me) by advertising.
Re: Netflix launches an ad-supported tier
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 720p max That is definetly a deal breaker for anyone with a new device post ~2012. I'd class 720p as outdated given todays technology and I can't see anyone going for this. I'm going to make some shameless generalisations here, but a better pilot country would be one that is less ecnonomically developed where people are more likely to have outdated hardware, not the US. > 10% of the catalog unavailable I wonder if…
720p is more than adequate for most shows and movies. I don't mind 720p at all.
You should see Netflix's 720p. It looks like 320p.
Re: Netflix launches an ad-supported tier
#39It's like all the services are increasing their price and decreasing the content/quality. I find that's issue with startup culture where they have lost billions of dollars in name of growth and now they need to recover
My gripe here is, for example, YouTube premium charging to remove ads and that indeed does make the experience better - and then there are sponsorship messages for stuff I won't name nordvpn for instance. There seems to be no rules about in-video sponsorship which honestly is driving me nuts. I feel like it is impossible to get away from ads no matter what one pays at this point.
> YouTube premium charging to remove ads [...] and then there are sponsorship messages
That's the main reason I won't even consider YouTube Premium - pointless to pay for "an ad-free experience" when, instead, you get a 5 minute segment in the middle of a video shilling for [flavour of the month]VPN or Audible.
Re: Netflix launches an ad-supported tier
#40It's like all the services are increasing their price and decreasing the content/quality. I find that's issue with startup culture where they have lost billions of dollars in name of growth and now they need to recover
It doesn't help that the original appeal of Netflix (having everything at your fingertips) was ruined by media companies starting their own streaming sites
Netflix (streaming) never gave you everything at your fingertips though. If you wanted a full film catalog you subscribed--or do subscribe though the back catalog has degraded--to the DVD by mail service.