This in the front page's legend made me snicker: "Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!" Now, what does that remind me of? :)
The number is randomly-generated BTW :)
9front “The Golden Age of Ballooning” Released
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t know how people use trackpads for anything but causal use anyway, even on a Mac I find them to be a constant strain on my psyche compared to using my mouse- I always have one on me if I have my laptop
Clickpads are horrible, but touchpads aren't so bad when they have tactile buttons. That's why I always print some for mine.
*Tries to imagine what the STL for a clickable button would look like*
Re: 9front “The Golden Age of Ballooning” Released
#33For those unfamiliar with Monty Python's Flying Circus, "The Golden Age of Ballooning" is the first episode of the fourth and final season, notable for being the first episode without John Cleese.[0]
No idea if 9front is intentionally referring to this.
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#34This page does a horrible job of explaining what it's about.
It does, it took me a minute to click on the "fqa" (o; but I absolutely love the design, humour and aesthetic. The web needs more of this oddballness. Dare I say, odd balloon-ness
Pretty extensive! Sadly they stopped making fun of nazis:
http://fqa.9front.org/fqa1.html#1.3.0.1
Who told them it is bad taste?
> The web needs more of this oddballness.
Yups. This kind of websites give me nostalgia. HN too btw.
Re: 9front “The Golden Age of Ballooning” Released
#35Happy to see this getting updated, although it is bittersweet to realize it has a minuscule user base and that the UX will likely never change (the three-button mouse UX simply isn’t a good fit for today’s laptops).
> UX will likely never change (the three-button mouse UX simply isn’t a good fit for today’s laptops).
Patches welcome.
Re: 9front “The Golden Age of Ballooning” Released
#36For those unfamiliar with Monty Python's Flying Circus, "The Golden Age of Ballooning" is the first episode of the fourth and final season, notable for being the first episode without John Cleese.[0] No idea if 9front is intentionally referring to this. [0] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0650996/
Yes.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
It does, it took me a minute to click on the "fqa" (o; but I absolutely love the design, humour and aesthetic. The web needs more of this oddballness. Dare I say, odd balloon-ness
Pretty extensive! Sadly they stopped making fun of nazis: http://fqa.9front.org/fqa1.html#1.3.0.1 Who told them it is bad taste? > The web needs more of this oddballness. Yups. This kind of websites give me nostalgia. HN too btw.
People complained about Mein Kampf being included in the source code.
Re: 9front “The Golden Age of Ballooning” Released
#38It's a fork of Plan 9. Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12617036
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it an inherent flaw in 9front or could it be fixed with an input router?
The Plan 9 UI is deeply arcane. It's heavily inspired by the Oberon UI, which itself is equally arcane, if not even more so. I have a play with Inferno in a VM some years ago. (I can't even find an ISO of it now, which is something that needs fixing badly, alongside a ready-to-run version for Linux on x86-64.) Oberon, and thus Plan 9, spring directly from the era of the original Xerox PARC Alto. Their design comes fr…
Inferno is not plan9, Inferno is based on what was learned while making/using plan9. They do not share a base.
Re: 9front “The Golden Age of Ballooning” Released
#40When Plan9 gets posted to HN, the feelings are complex. I love you guys, I really do, but plan9 might have been passed up on by the segment of the hn audience who'd have loved it most.
Plan9 is a project that does things very differently on purpose. A lot of things don't make sense at first, like the 3 finger mouse paradigm, plumbing, mainframe mentality. What I fear is that the more people from HN are introduced to it from a standpoint of "Hey look at this novelty, it just got a new release" the more people will find it, love it as I did, but then ignoring context, completely hold the community hostage with the curse of popularity to change everything we know and love about it to make it the same OS they left for plan9.
Younger devs with terrible ideas are capable enough now to implement things themselves, and I worry that with the miniscule amount of devwork it would take to make huge waves in the plan9 community, I can only hope that people with very shitty ideas dont jump in and make a splash because it'll be hard for the community to say no.
Plan9 is very unapologetic, has lots of rough edges, and 9 front specifically can ruffle some feathers with regard to content and imagery, like the copy of Mein Kampf being in every copy of the source code, im not saying it meant something, but that was our joke, and new people hated that. It could have been a goosebumps book but it'd meant the same. We're already seeing that being tamped down by those who don't understand the spirit behind it. You'll know I'm right if the only replies to this comment will be on the inflammatory parts, not the revolutionary parts.
So like I said. It's complicated seeing it on HN. On one hand I want the world to know this technology that sadly we left behind and seem hellbent on reinventing. On the other hand, a lot of you guys suck now, and are too capable for the limited amount of forethought you have.
I guess all I'm trying to say is, treat my baby right. I'm trusting you guys to enjoy it like the rest of us did.
Also please take this as gracefully as possible, but a lot of you have the worst ideas... like the absolute worst most misinformed, heart aint even in the right place, no forethought, just terrible ideas. The rest of you are fine. I'll take my downvotes in a to-go box, as usual.