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The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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diggan wrote: post #25
thrown_22 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The barrier to be accepted is very low. And there is another, lower "mark" as well called "Sekretessmarkering" ("Privacy mark") which can give you similar benefits and has even lower barrier. Or are you saying you did apply for this and it wasn't successful?

I'm not OP. But asking the government to give you back privacy seems the worst of all possible worlds. The people who need it the most are usually the people the Swedish government wants dead, e.g. Assange.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Post by u10 »

thrown_22 wrote: post #19
m_eiman wrote: post #8

"This system was built and created for a different time where criminality was pretty much absent in Sweden" When was this golden age of (almost) no crime, I wonder?

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One, nobody thinks that, and two, a rather glib response to a rather complex satistical issue.

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Post by Retric »

thrown_22 wrote: post #19
m_eiman wrote: post #8

"This system was built and created for a different time where criminality was pretty much absent in Sweden" When was this golden age of (almost) no crime, I wonder?

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Only if you compare wildly different statistics without context.

During the years 2013-2017, Sweden averaged 64 reported rapes per 100,000 inhabitants—a rate that tied for the highest in Europe. However, when the data was examined, it became clear that Sweden's high numbers were fueled in large part by Sweden's broader definition of rape and more inclusive reporting rules compared to other European countries. When the data was recalculated using Germany's narrower guidelines, for example, Sweden's average reported rapes per 100,000 people fell from 64 to 15, a decrease of 326.7%.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Post by Frummy »

diggan wrote: post #6

I don't think this is true. You can apply for "Skyddade personuppgifter" (Protected personal data) which means your details won't be publicly viewable. Here is the documentation from the police: https://polisen.se/utsatt-for-brott/hjalp-och-stod-fran-samh... and here is the details from the tax agency: https://www.skatteverket.se/foretagochorganisationer/myndigh... I know bunch of other people who have protected iden…

When I worked with loans for a middleman type of digital service, it was impossible to provide help to people with protected data. Nothing is visible when you take a credit report, so we couldn't do more after that. The consumers in question that I talked to said they were denied by every bank they talked to, they only came halfway through the process and I discovered the same thing when I tried once when knowing beforehand and a few times figuring it out on that step of the process.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Post by m_eiman »

diggan wrote: post #6

I don't think this is true. You can apply for "Skyddade personuppgifter" (Protected personal data) which means your details won't be publicly viewable. Here is the documentation from the police: https://polisen.se/utsatt-for-brott/hjalp-och-stod-fran-samh... and here is the details from the tax agency: https://www.skatteverket.se/foretagochorganisationer/myndigh... I know bunch of other people who have protected iden…

"I'm more worried about the national DNA database where literally every single citizen who been born in Sweden is in. Seems usage by police and others are increasing while the purpose was suppose to be only for research."

It's a blood bio bank, not a DNA database - although the latter can be created from the former, of course. As far as I know it's only been used once by the police to identify a criminal, they used it to confirm the identity of the person who killed the minister of foreign affaris(?) Anna Lind.

The main purpose of the biobank is to detect rare disases in newborns, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newborn_screening

It's not mandatory to take the test on your newborn, and it's possible to request your sample be destroyed.

There has been talk of opening up the samples to police use, but so far it's been decided that the downsides would overweigh the benefits. One of the fears is that opening up the samples for other use would mean fewer infants will be tested (increasing suffering for those who miss an important diagnosis), and some adults will reques their samples be destroyed (reducing the research value of the data set).

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