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Apple's sleeping advertising business

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Re: Apple's sleeping advertising business

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The recent approach to advertising services and the moves they are making detailed in this article have me asking the question, what is the point in paying the Apple premium these days?

You purchase a lifestyle signifier. It's the tech equivalent of wearing Gucci.

Until they kill the SE I think luxury goods comparisons are silly. It’s not like flagship Android devices are cheap either.

Re: Apple's sleeping advertising business

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That Apple could do it doesn’t mean they will, and the article doesn’t present much actual evidence it will. In Apple long-running saga with Ads it’s always seemed like Apple hates ads because it’s other companies content (and so priorities, aesthetic, and feel) jammed inside an Apple product. And Apple hates anything that ruins the Apple Experience :tm: Paying to be the first App Store entry is great, because it’s A…

They have a turnkey plan b for the next CEO or if they have a bad quarter or two. You better believe they'll use it if they need to show growth.

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I think it’s a bit funny that the author seems completely convinced that Apple will certainly create their own search service. If I were Apple, I would happily keep accepting the billions of dollars from Google in exchange for a dearly setting that costs virtually no money to implement.

Also as an aside, is it just me or is Apple News+ a downright dreadful offering? I’ll be browsing regular Apple News and it will decide to throw a paywall in front of content from The Atlantic or Vanity Fair etc.

Every time I just pull up that article for free in my browser and I’m mystified that anyone would get tricked into paying for freely available content.

Re: Apple's sleeping advertising business

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I switched to an iPhone about six months ago and have been shocked by how user-hostile the experience is compared to my old Pixel, primarily because of their ecosystem lock-in. For example, the watch randomly logged me out of Strava and started pushing me towards their random fitness tracking app, and iMessage won't let me click to open addresses because I uninstalled Apple Maps. I suspect (maybe hope) their anticompetitive behavior will start to draw more public scrutiny if they double down on their ad business.

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> Paying to be the first App Store entry is great, because it’s Apple showing off the normal Apple content (an app card) within a search list of app cards. The most lucrative ad-supported site in the world (Google search) also shows normal-looking paid content at the top of a list of search results. Apple doesn't need to accept ugly banner ads to build an enormous ad business.

It's so normal-looking, its hard to tell the difference between paid and regular content!

Whenever I go actually have to install an app from the apple store I really really have to pay attention to figure out what is an ad and what is what I actually want. Yeah it says it's an ad one it but it shows up first and the "it's an ad" warning feels deceptively subdued.

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It's also a lousy user experience since the bogus ad app shows up at the top of the page and eats up screen space, especially on a phone. > People are lazy and download the first result a lot of the time. If people need something right away, they're unlikely to want to spend time evaluating a bunch of alternatives.

It’s just made the App Store unusable. Even exact name search is fraught with peril. I just Google things instead now. I feel like this is what is going to happen for every product Apple will infest with ads.

It's good to know I'm not the only one who finds the app store literally insufferable. like you have one option, their store, and now even their store you have to be careful because the ads are so subtle.

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That Apple could do it doesn’t mean they will, and the article doesn’t present much actual evidence it will. In Apple long-running saga with Ads it’s always seemed like Apple hates ads because it’s other companies content (and so priorities, aesthetic, and feel) jammed inside an Apple product. And Apple hates anything that ruins the Apple Experience :tm: Paying to be the first App Store entry is great, because it’s A…

Counterpoint: The Apple News app. Even of you're a paying ($10!) subscriber, the app is full of absolutely awful advertisement. The current culture of Apple produced this app; it wouldn't surprise me if other properties of Apple start to embed ads.

Yeah, for some reason the ads in Apple News are particularly awful. I do have ad personalization turned off, but that doesn’t explain seeing the same large, irrelevant, and strange ad plastered between every two or three paragraphs.

Re: Apple's sleeping advertising business

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Apple products command significant premium over their competitors and the reason people are paying this premium is the clean(er) computing environment. If they start injecting ads everywhere, it would negate the reason to pay the premium for Apple products.
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