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5 Years of Pop _OS

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Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by myself248 »

chatterhead wrote: post #4

Congrats! Pop_OS rebuilt in Rust?? Sounds pretty sweet. Really wish I had enough money for a System76 PC. Go on there at least 10 times a year and build out a PC or two just to dream... Sorry for abandoning my cart with ridiculous PC specs built for one of those hoodie wearing hackers in media photos. Edit: I'm posting too fast so for the person commenting on what boards they use... https://tech-docs.system76.com - h…

They used to sell keyboards too, but there's no keyboards section in the store anymore.

However, if you configure a computer and add a keyboard, add the whole thing to your cart, then go into your cart and remove the computer, the keyboard is still there and you can proceed to checkout.

I'm not sure if this is intentional.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by kccqzy »

I am quite a fan of their Pop!_Shell. I wanted to improve my desktop efficiency by using a tiling window manager; I tried i3wm and XMonad, but none of them really clicked with me. Finally, I decided to try the Pop!_Shell tiling mode and it was awesome. (Hardcore tiling window manager fans might not agree but Pop!_Shell is a lot more newbie-friendly.)

Furthermore, you don't even have to install Pop!_OS to get Pop!_Shell. For example my preferred distribution is openSUSE Tumbleweed with GNOME, so I just need to

    sudo zypper install gnome-shell-extension-pop-shell
    wget https://github.com/pop-os/shell/raw/master_jammy/scripts/configure.sh
    # configure.sh mostly configures keyboard shortcuts. Inspect it before running.
    sh ./configure.sh
And then enable it. That's all.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by CoastalCoder »

abnercoimbre wrote: post #24
JoBrad wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple found business value in providing an OS that worked well with their hardware. I imagine the System 76 team see similar value. I recently installed it on an old ThinkCentre, and have been very pleased with it.

How did Bluetooth turn out for ya? I installed the OS on a ROG Zephyrus (Windows gaming laptop) and everything works beautifully (even WiFi) except for Bluetooth. It simply stopped working after a while.

Bluetooth works fine for me on both System76 Thelio and my Lenovo Legion laptop.

Well, except for the crappy BT audio, but IIUC that problem isn't listed to Pop_OS.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by nu11ptr »

ekianjo wrote: post #22
qbasic_forever wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep I've had the exact same experience. I love that pop is setup out of the box to work well with flatpaks and flathub too--I rarely have to mess with out of date debs, the pain of snaps, etc. The gnome extensions they pack in for tiling windows, adding desktop icons, are fantastic too. It just works.

The fact that they include flatpaks together with normal packages is confusing though. They appear just the same in the pop_OS store and there are many duplicates because of that. Very inconsistent behavior for installation: flatpaks require no specific rights but normal packages require sudo password. Not a good UX in that regard.

While I would prefer more debs personally, the flatpaks are clearly marked as such in the store

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

#36

Post by colordrops »

myself248 wrote: post #27

I'm a Linux idiot, just got sick of Windows, and took the plunge in 2016. (After some ill-fated tinkering in 1996 with Slackware, but we don't speak of that.) I started with Ubuntu and had a pretty good time for a year or two, until a dist-upgrade broke everything. Luckily /home/ was easy to restore from backup. So I was fine for another two years on Ubuntu until another dist-upgrade broke everything again. Sensing a…

If you look at my comment history, you'll see I'm a bit of a broken record, but my records don't break anymore after switching to NixOS. It was precisely the breakage after every upgrade that got me to try it. With declarative config-based reproduceable deployment that can be rolled-back, the broken OS doesn't need to be a thing anymore.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by twblalock »

listic wrote: post #19
chatterhead wrote: post #4

Congrats! Pop_OS rebuilt in Rust?? Sounds pretty sweet. Really wish I had enough money for a System76 PC. Go on there at least 10 times a year and build out a PC or two just to dream... Sorry for abandoning my cart with ridiculous PC specs built for one of those hoodie wearing hackers in media photos. Edit: I'm posting too fast so for the person commenting on what boards they use... https://tech-docs.system76.com - h…

Are their desktop PCs built around standard boards? I presume their 'Thelio' is Mini-ITX form factor? It sounds condescending of them to omit the exact model names of their hardware in their 'tech specs' section. I, for one, would like to know what exact model of motherboard I would be getting when I choose 'AMD' or 'Intel Advanced' in the 'Platform' section. Same goes for RAM, SSD, etc.

The exact model? That seems like a higher standard than other computer companies are expected to meet. It sounds like you ought to build your own PC if you care about every single component.

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by gaganyaan »

colordrops wrote: post #36
myself248 wrote: post #27

I'm a Linux idiot, just got sick of Windows, and took the plunge in 2016. (After some ill-fated tinkering in 1996 with Slackware, but we don't speak of that.) I started with Ubuntu and had a pretty good time for a year or two, until a dist-upgrade broke everything. Luckily /home/ was easy to restore from backup. So I was fine for another two years on Ubuntu until another dist-upgrade broke everything again. Sensing a…

If you look at my comment history, you'll see I'm a bit of a broken record, but my records don't break anymore after switching to NixOS. It was precisely the breakage after every upgrade that got me to try it. With declarative config-based reproduceable deployment that can be rolled-back, the broken OS doesn't need to be a thing anymore.

I just had NixOS break in a weird way for me. Ok, it was more that Gnome 42.4 broke the wsmatrix extension, which caused Gnome to shit itself[1] on login.

It's a little bit of a double edged sword. NixOS lets me use pretty much straight upstream packages, which sometimes break due to not having thorough integration testing like a traditional distro would. On the other hand, I was able to just boot up an older configuration to get back to functional, and that let me figure out wtf was wrong.

[1]: https://github.com/mzur/gnome-shell-wsmatrix/issues/236

Re: 5 Years of Pop _OS

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Post by pmontra »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #18
nu11ptr wrote: post #6

I really like Pop Os. I've always liked Debian descended distros, and prior to this I was using Ubuntu. While I like it, I always found a lot of rough edges esp. when it came to proprietary drivers, etc. where things didn't always work without some tweaking. Pop Os on the other hand seems to "just work" - it is like a polished version of Ubuntu with a nice selection of apps in the Pop Shop. Theme is pretty nice as we…

Yep I've had the exact same experience. I love that pop is setup out of the box to work well with flatpaks and flathub too--I rarely have to mess with out of date debs, the pain of snaps, etc. The gnome extensions they pack in for tiling windows, adding desktop icons, are fantastic too. It just works.

No snaps is good but

1. Slack is a snap. Do you have to run it in the browser? I don't know if desktop sharing works well there, it's been years since I only used their app (Electron?)

2. Is flatpack optional or are there some mandatory flatpack apps that are part of the system? I'd like a deb only system.

3. Contrary to some of us I don't want to use a tiling window manager. Can I keep using my heavily customized Gnome Shell or do I have to use whatever System 76 created for Pop_OS?

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