Earlier quoted context omitted.
Farming is vastly more destructive for ecosystems than animal husbandry. (For maximum efficiency we now combine both, of course, but it's indstrial farming that's the real killer, not cow farts.)
what is the basis for this exrraordinary doublethink?
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s a pretty significant difference in tuna stocks between the Atlantic and the Pacific. Japan sources tuna from the Pacific, and for high quality fish that fetches astronomical prices, it has to be caught via long-lining. Purse seiners may turn up bluefin from time to time, but they’re not set up to store and deliver it the way a long-liner is. Anyhow, skipjack is the most common species of tuna in the Pacific a…
> Japan sources tuna from the Pacific Japanese companies are buying a lot of net caught Mediterranean tuna also since 2000 at least
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#33"Mitsubishi [the car maker], holds a tight grasp of a 40% share in the world market for Bluefin tuna" "Is importing thousands and thousands of pounds of Bluefin tuna from the Mediterranean to Tokyo fish markets. They also have a massive freezer, where they have acquired a stock reserve of Bluefin tuna. As the number of fish reaches a record low, the price of tuna meat will continue to rise. Mitsubishi will be able to…
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#34"Mitsubishi [the car maker], holds a tight grasp of a 40% share in the world market for Bluefin tuna" "Is importing thousands and thousands of pounds of Bluefin tuna from the Mediterranean to Tokyo fish markets. They also have a massive freezer, where they have acquired a stock reserve of Bluefin tuna. As the number of fish reaches a record low, the price of tuna meat will continue to rise. Mitsubishi will be able to…
how long can you conserve frozen tuna without losing its qualities ?
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#35"Mitsubishi [the car maker], holds a tight grasp of a 40% share in the world market for Bluefin tuna" "Is importing thousands and thousands of pounds of Bluefin tuna from the Mediterranean to Tokyo fish markets. They also have a massive freezer, where they have acquired a stock reserve of Bluefin tuna. As the number of fish reaches a record low, the price of tuna meat will continue to rise. Mitsubishi will be able to…
how long can you conserve frozen tuna without losing its qualities ?
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#36It is human nature. I'm not defending it, just observing.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
The major destructive agriculture is the one that is done to feed animals not the one for humans. If you get rid of animal farming you'll also get rid of a substancial amount of agriculture (not all of it if course, humans will still need to eat, but not as much as cows, pigs, chickens etc combined)
You don't need to feed grain to domestic animals. Humans have raised cattle on natural grass for thousands of years just fine.
So either we go back to the same total population we had thousands of year ago or we start thinking how we can be more efficient with our food.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
The major destructive agriculture is the one that is done to feed animals not the one for humans. If you get rid of animal farming you'll also get rid of a substancial amount of agriculture (not all of it if course, humans will still need to eat, but not as much as cows, pigs, chickens etc combined)
You don't need to feed grain to domestic animals. Humans have raised cattle on natural grass for thousands of years just fine.
Humans raise animals on grass, but relatively few animals. If we only eat grazed cattle, then very few people will get to eat it — or — we would all need to eat far less of it.
Further, evidence of grazing storing carbon effectively has been largely debunked, and it’s clear now that grazing land would likely be best left to the wilderness, allowed to be restored as forest or meadow or whatever it was. We stand to gain far more from allowing natural ecology develop and thrive than from eating more steak.
No you cannot scale up grass fed meat, you should not, and the entire idea is so full of holes it can barely hold itself anymore.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't need to feed grain to domestic animals. Humans have raised cattle on natural grass for thousands of years just fine.
I’m not sure where you live, but in North America almost everyone is eating meat from intensive livestock operations. By almost, that’s over 90% of all meat produced… I’m going to guess less than 1% of North Americans who eat meat manage to completely avoid these meats. The vast majority are primarily eating these meats. Humans raise animals on grass, but relatively few animals. If we only eat grazed cattle, then ver…
I'll need a citation on that, because the world certainly doesn't lack grazeable grass.
(Cattle is fed farmed grains today because it's more efficient logistically, not because there's a shortage of grass.)