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81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending

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Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People do cook instead of eating out . Analogies are not problem-solvers, and it's a false dichotomy because owning is not the only alternative to the cloud

Most home cooks and restaurants don't grown or transport their own food. Even at a farm to table type place there's often different people doing the different work. What's wrong with letting the specialists handle logistics so you can focus on business logic instead of basic piping?

I think growing food is the wrong analogy, and cooking is better.

Growing food is more like designing and manufacturing servers.

Cooking is more like taking these goods and putting them to use.

There are plenty of places that host their own servers, including people that have these servers in their home or office. But far fewer produce these machines.

You could also say that cooking food is dumb. What's wrong with having professionals chefs do it? But that also doesn't take into account the added costs which makes it unfeasible for most.

Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending

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FWIW at my own workplace the focus on cloud spending and cutting that bill has gone through the roof. The incentivization has been so good that teams are now constantly trumpeting their cost-saving measures. I've even seen cases where systems are purposefully shipped without any optimizations in order to give room for the follow-up "we saved $500k/year on this" email.

Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending

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Marketing can only go so far. Are more people finally starting to take their heads out of the cloud? Not only do cloud providers need to pay their own costs, they also need to make a profit on top of that; thus, if one thinks critically, the only time renting can be cheaper than owning is if it's short-term.

I was under the impression that outsourcing leveraged economies of scale and ought to be cheaper, if anything. Cloud-everything becoming commonplace does leave me worried that SaaS will drive out SaaP / self-hosted solutions, if it hasn’t already.

Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know, none of my farmers and grocers are building penis rockets and flying them to space, so they might be working with a bit lower margins than AWS.

You do realize there are billionares in the food / agriculture business too, right?

Sounds like the criticism is broadly applicable then.

Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending

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I have access to a button that I can trivially press, that a coworker recently told me generates a $50 AWS bill.

There's various levels of foot-gun clicks that can generate AWS bills many orders of magnitude larger.

Reserved Instances are a really quick and easy way to blow a few million with one click.

Europe (Frankfurt), 3 year, all-upfront, Windows w/ SQL Enterprise, Dedicated Tenancy, u-12tb1.112xlarge instance at $5,926,378 up-front.

The discounted $225/hour rate for it disappears into the background noise.

(No, I'm not willing to test it to find out if it actually works)

[1] https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/reserved-instances/pricin...

Re: 81% of IT teams directed to reduce or halt cloud spending

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post #9
post #2

Lol. Finally, someone does math.

Huh? What’s the math?

Some cloud providers are more expensive for many customers that don’t need the infinite scalability but a set of well performing VMs with fast storage and network too.

An iPad Pro is faster and cheaper than many cloud resources. I don’t advise to run production workloads on an iPad.

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