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Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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>“uncanny valley” isms What exactly does that mean? I bet most people would fail to tell things apart on a blind test comparing kitchen designs generated by humans vs. ai (not counting the "transitory" images with blurred corners etc.). Same thing with concept art.

Did you watch the video??

Yep. I forgot to add that on this imaginary blind test, the ai images would have to be hand selected to avoid these "transitory" frames where things get blurred and joined.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you watch the video??

Yep. I forgot to add that on this imaginary blind test, the ai images would have to be hand selected to avoid these "transitory" frames where things get blurred and joined.

So you are basically proving OPs point. If a human has to hand curate computer generated images then the computer isn’t taking the place of a designer/general contractor/architect anytime soon.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Once we can do "more like this", "less like that" in a way that doesn't require a 3 paragraph inscrutable word soup for prompts, I don't see how this doesn't revolutionalize most industries that need any type of quick prototyping of anything. You could do this for any sort of web / mobile / whatever UI, designing houses, cars, any object really, fashion, etc. It's all going to be so much faster.

> "more like this", "less like that"

I wonder if those could be implemented as vector addition in the latent space.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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I read a lot of these posts on stable diffusion, midjourney, etc., and I don’t want to fall into the classic “I don’t think this is ready yet” camp, but one thing an Architect will be able to do really well which these tools won’t is make a kitchen that is actually usable. I mean, this thing is basically a corrupted Pinterest of kitchen ideas with doors and drawers intersecting, beams that make no sense, and flooring…

> Now I know that this tool is just a “starting point” for using as ideas, but I have seen way more fabulous (and sane) kitchen designs en mass on houzz, dezeen, basically any online blog.

Somehow I doubt those blogs have the same floor plan as my house or any easy way to filter for things that would fit in my own kitchen. Don't underestimate the power of seeing a design in your exact kitchen/space. What looks good in one layout isn't guaranteed to look good in another.

> All this to say, I work with architects professionally, and I do not see this as something that will cause their field concern in the near to mid term. These programs cannot make drawings with structural suggestions, floor plans for the layout they produce, or anything else that a person pays an architect for.

Ok but that's not the point, at least it's not for me. I'm not trying to replace architects, I'm trying to figure out what I want so I can take it to someone who knows better and say "I want this". They can kick back anything that's not going to work structurally but I kind of doubt this is going to be a big problem as, not to be an ass but, I have a brain. I know where the cabinets can go (the same place my existing ones are) along with my sink/oven/dishwasher. What I'm looking for is designs/colors/etc and how that would look in my kitchen, I'm not designing a kitchen/house from an empty plot of land.

As with all Stable Diffusion (and most AI stuff, see CoPilot) the goal (or at least my goal) isn't to replace the designers/architects/programmers/etc but to automate away the parts that waste a bunch of time. For CoPilot that's boilerplate or similar code blocks, for this it's letting me see designs and (hopefully) tweak or re-gen parts I don't like until I get it close enough to take it to an expert. I fully understand the "kitchen remodel" tool doesn't exist today but it's not hard to imagine what it would look like with image input, in/out-painting regions, and a nice GUI wrapped around a Stable Diffusion core.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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I read a lot of these posts on stable diffusion, midjourney, etc., and I don’t want to fall into the classic “I don’t think this is ready yet” camp, but one thing an Architect will be able to do really well which these tools won’t is make a kitchen that is actually usable. I mean, this thing is basically a corrupted Pinterest of kitchen ideas with doors and drawers intersecting, beams that make no sense, and flooring…

This isn't meant to be a literal blueprint maker- it's an idea machine. The advantage of Stable Diffusion is that you can put an actual photo of your real life kitchen in as a seed, and see the ideas applied to your space. It's not the same as browsing through pictures of kitchens on pintrest or houzz, which show entirely different locations of different sizes, different lighting conditions, or different dimensions; it's hard to imagine or apply those ideas to my space if my space is radically different. My kitchen is a small apartment kitchen with a single window and a narrow space, it isn't analogous to 99% of the posts I saw scrolling through houzz just now. But if I could upload a picture of it and see 5-10 new cabinet arrangements or designs, I might be inspired by one and use it as a jumping off point for a new setup.

Someone with zero design experience could run this over a photo of their kitchen and realize that their exact real world kitchen would look nice with a different set of paneling, or a different set of chairs, or a larger window, etc. Obviously they have to consult with an architect or other expert to see how feasible larger renovations are, it's not meant to replace architectural work, but there is plenty of value already added as an inspiration tool. In fact it might lead to a lot more work for architects, if they can use a tool like this to show potential clients a bunch of inspiration for how their kitchen could look, without doing any actual architectural work up front.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Did you watch the video??

Yep. I forgot to add that on this imaginary blind test, the ai images would have to be hand selected to avoid these "transitory" frames where things get blurred and joined.

Seriously???

I'm not talking about "transitory" frames. I'm talking about things like the bottom of the top kitchen cabinets frequently being missing, top beams being at different levels in an impossible "MC Escher"-like configuration.

I definitely could see this being useful in plugging in different "styles" to decide what you like, and then taking that to a designer or architect to build out a real design, but anyone paying attention should easily be able to identify the generated images.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I forgot to add that on this imaginary blind test, the ai images would have to be hand selected to avoid these "transitory" frames where things get blurred and joined.

So you are basically proving OPs point. If a human has to hand curate computer generated images then the computer isn’t taking the place of a designer/general contractor/architect anytime soon.

I never said AI-generated images would take the place of human professionals soon. I asked what exactly "uncanny valley" isms mean.

Re: Kitchen Renovation ideas animation using Stable Diffusion [video]

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This is still rehashing the same concepts/ideas in circulation not producing novel ones nor innovating in this space. Maybe it will prove beneficial for rapid prototyping during the ideation stage for mass-market products/services in the commercial/residential remodeling industry but nothing revolutionary.

Seems like a valid point, but aren’t 99.999% of kitchen remodels rehashing the same ideas and concepts in circulation? 99.999% of clothes? 99.999% of furniture?

This wasn't a value judgement BTW. I acknowledged the valid and productive use cases for this project but pointed out that it wasn't revolutionary in creativity or innovation at this stage. For me, it looks like Pinterest on steroids, very capable and efficient but not mind-blowing or out of this world.
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