Explosive Laden Drone Found Near Nord Stream Pipeline (2015) • Hacker News Board

Re: Explosive Laden Drone Found Near Nord Stream Pipeline (2015)

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Post by sriram_malhar » Wed, Sep 28, 2022, 7:11 AM UTC

innagadadavida wrote: post #16

drekipus wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

News and reports are always making sure to frame it in certain ways. They can't say "perhaps sabotage" because then fingers will start pointing and everything gets on edge. News is full of "it's just a coincidence, look away" -- speculating is fun, but don't be a conspiracy theorist. Always listen to approved, fact-checked news sources. They'll tell you what to think. And in this case you need to look at this as anyt…

Sometimes you need to hear the other party’s newsfeed. Tucker Carlson breaks it down: https://twitter.com/columbiabugle/status/1574921923624058887... Excerpt 6min: “One way or another Nordstream 2 will not proceed”

You mean "entertainment" feed. There's no news there. Fox won a case by arguing that no one takes Tucker carlson seriously.

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/fox-news-...

Re: Explosive Laden Drone Found Near Nord Stream Pipeline (2015)

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Post by StanislavPetrov » Wed, Sep 28, 2022, 8:14 AM UTC

rob74 wrote: post #25

StanislavPetrov wrote: post #21

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>Even the flipping Germans were saying NordStream 2 is dead. This was Scholz in August: “we ended the approval process for good reason.” The same Germans who said they were shuttering all their nuclear plants until reality changed and they weren't. Tucker Carlson and partisan politics completely aside, only a fool believes anything any politician ever says. Politicians speak out of the desire to gain votes, the desir…

Newsflash: the Germans are still shuttering their nuclear plants! They merely extended 2 of the 3 still operating plants for a few more months (until mid April 2023), I guess because that's how long they can operate with the existing fuel rods - Either at continuously diminishing output, or they reduce output now so the power can be used should it be necessary during the winter months. For anything more, they would n…

>So: don't trust what politicians say, but also take what journalists (all journalists, not just the likes of Tucker Carlson) say/write with a big grain of salt...

You shouldn't trust what any public figure has to say. The fact is that Germany is about to go into a deep freeze, and all of their hollow rhetoric is going to rapidly go away when reality sets in. You don't need a politician or journalist to explain it. It is unfortunate that objective reality causes cognitive dissonance in so many, and prevents serious conversations about how to deal with reality-based problems.

Re: Explosive Laden Drone Found Near Nord Stream Pipeline (2015)

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Post by jeltz » Wed, Sep 28, 2022, 8:28 AM UTC

bagels wrote: post #4

"Ruling out sabotage" How is that just dropped in there without any explanation of an innocuous purpose of an explosive laden drone?

Lazy journalism but we know what it was. It is a Swedish mine clearing drone which was lost during an exercise in 2014.

https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/aktuellt/2015/11/analysen-a...

Re: Explosive Laden Drone Found Near Nord Stream Pipeline (2015)

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Post by kwhitefoot » Wed, Sep 28, 2022, 10:44 AM UTC

adunk wrote: post #28

pytonslange wrote: post #27

Sensational? This was found to be a lost Swedish military training drone. https://www-forsvarsmakten-se.translate.goog/sv/aktuellt/201...

The automated translation of that article turned out a little bizarre. This is the automatically translated version: > The analysis shows that it is a Swedish remote-controlled craft (Seafox) that the Norwegian Armed Forces use to detect, for example, minors. Not only does this translation fumble the translation of the word "naval mines", which amusingly becomes "minors", but it also somewhat surprisingly changes the…

The url says that the from language was Norwegian which is wrong but does explain it getting the country name wrong.