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Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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Santa Cruz native here: I can understand the author's frustrations coming to Santa Cruz from the outside but there's more to it. He's describing a UCSC problem because the university is expanding without building enough dormitories and relying on development in the city instead. This is causing unrest among the natives who resent 5 story huge San Jose style apartment blocks going up in their beautiful city. The secon…

> very environmentally conscious no-growth city > growth would ruin the city So I take it you'll be doing your part and packing your bags?

I live in San Jose and currently can't afford to live in Santa Cruz

Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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post #26

There really is a lot of truth in Mark Twain's old adage: "Buy land, they're not making it anymore." I think there is a certain amount of delusion in expecting any static resource to meet monotonically increasing amounts of demand.

It will be a very, very long time before we run out of usable land in this country. The problem really is that 50% of the population wants to live on the same 0.1% of land.

Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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post #26

There really is a lot of truth in Mark Twain's old adage: "Buy land, they're not making it anymore." I think there is a certain amount of delusion in expecting any static resource to meet monotonically increasing amounts of demand.

Ever since humanity started being able to build upward, I'm not sure this is so relevant. There's more than enough developed land to comfortably house the human race. We're just using it comically inefficiently.

Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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post #27

Santa Cruz native here: I can understand the author's frustrations coming to Santa Cruz from the outside but there's more to it. He's describing a UCSC problem because the university is expanding without building enough dormitories and relying on development in the city instead. This is causing unrest among the natives who resent 5 story huge San Jose style apartment blocks going up in their beautiful city. The secon…

"We like our city as it is and don't want it to grow." Soon followed by "We can't afford to live in our city because rich people are outbidding us for the very limited housing." Same story as everywhere else. You make your bed, you sleep in it. And this part is hilarious but telling: > Homeless is a problem but Santa Cruz tries to handle it a progressive way, for example, by setting up the homeless camp next to the c…

> Setting up slum cities is now the standard of progressiveness in America

The alternative was to continue to let people live in the surrounding forests while shooting up heroin with dirty needles, trashing the woods and causing lengthy service calls for police and ambulance. This way they are all in one spot and are serviced by clean needle program, etc...

What's your solution?

Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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Santa Cruz native here: I can understand the author's frustrations coming to Santa Cruz from the outside but there's more to it. He's describing a UCSC problem because the university is expanding without building enough dormitories and relying on development in the city instead. This is causing unrest among the natives who resent 5 story huge San Jose style apartment blocks going up in their beautiful city. The secon…

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Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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Santa Cruz native here: I can understand the author's frustrations coming to Santa Cruz from the outside but there's more to it. He's describing a UCSC problem because the university is expanding without building enough dormitories and relying on development in the city instead. This is causing unrest among the natives who resent 5 story huge San Jose style apartment blocks going up in their beautiful city. The secon…

Excellent article.

Here we have it ^, the opposition to housing solutions. Not pitchfork wielding homeowners, but polite good citizens who are NIMBY and disguised as environmentally friendly people who really care for the city's character, as well as blaming the UC.

Please tell me how the massive meth-filled homeless encampment behind the courthouse is being handled in a "progressive" way. By the way they were forcibly evicted 2 weeks ago. The fact that there is any homeless encampment is an inexcusable embarrassment.

Increased density is coming to everywhere in California, like it or not. Thankfully the governor occasionally passes laws removing some NIMBY arguments - though too little too late.

I'm writing this from a converted garage in Santa Cruz that I'm paying nearly $3k/month for. There are a couple ADUs and a zillion AirBnBs, but no multi-family homes around me for miles.

Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We like our city as it is and don't want it to grow." Soon followed by "We can't afford to live in our city because rich people are outbidding us for the very limited housing." Same story as everywhere else. You make your bed, you sleep in it. And this part is hilarious but telling: > Homeless is a problem but Santa Cruz tries to handle it a progressive way, for example, by setting up the homeless camp next to the c…

> Setting up slum cities is now the standard of progressiveness in America The alternative was to continue to let people live in the surrounding forests while shooting up heroin with dirty needles, trashing the woods and causing lengthy service calls for police and ambulance. This way they are all in one spot and are serviced by clean needle program, etc... What's your solution?

... build housing.

Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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What people seem to miss is how awesome UCSC is. In typical HN fashion I see multiple comments talking dryly about college selection like it's a business decision. People flock to UCSC for its exceptional natural beauty, idiosyncratic culture and slightly unorthodox academics. Not because of a cost-benefit analysis. For people like me, it offered a big-campus college experience without the emphasis on sports and the Greek system. And it offered it in a culturally bizarre and incredibly beautiful corner of the country. That draw isn't going away anytime soon, especially since students can subsidize those crazy-high rents with student debt as I once did.

Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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post #5

The thing I read in there that was disappointing was the administration response. However it is a state school so I imagine they don't have the same funding for development of housing on site / not to mention they are located between the SC mountains / protected forest and the ocean. It's a small area without much development space and that land is at a premium. Feel for the students though.

For a long time now, the UC system's spirit has been "hey, our total lack of concern about our students' well-being is feature, not a bug. If you graduate here, you've shown you're a survivor (or that you have money to soften the blows)". I felt that ethos at UC Berkeley forty years ago. And sure, if UC solved the housing problem for their students, it might solve things for non-students, which might reduce house val…

I don't think improving housing for UC students solves the problem for the area. I was just referring to them building more on campus housing. Might take a bit of heat off the rental market.

The turn in the story is ... let's revisit this next year and see how the housing situation is .. I think it's about to melt down a lot. I suspect this blog post represents an unfortunate temporary thing.

Re: Santa Cruz is a Housing Nightmare

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Santa Cruz native here: I can understand the author's frustrations coming to Santa Cruz from the outside but there's more to it. He's describing a UCSC problem because the university is expanding without building enough dormitories and relying on development in the city instead. This is causing unrest among the natives who resent 5 story huge San Jose style apartment blocks going up in their beautiful city. The secon…

Really amazing to try and offer perspective of a "native" with some unique insights about a community only to offer up the same tired NIMBY arguments you hear in every housing-starved city.

ANd then to claim that your homeless problem is fine because you put them in a slum tent city with "services" is truly the icing on the cake lol

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