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DataBorg – Knowledge Management Simplified

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Re: DataBorg – Knowledge Management Simplified

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Post by number6 »

yamalight wrote: post #11
number6 wrote: post #8

If I use the second prompt: "Try our Text To Knowledge Graph API" You have made too many requests. Please login or try again in ~10 seconds. I am Rate limited; maybe implement a cooldown on the submit button or something — feels a bit unfriendly on a landingpage

Hi, CTO of DataBorg here. Thanks for trying it out! And apologies for the mess - we weren't quite ready to go public just yet :) Current rate-limiting is IP based, so it might be your shared IP public address messing things up. The next update we're rolling out over the next few days should make it less aggressive. If you login with your github / email - you should be able to try thing out without rate-limiting issue…

Iam infact behind a Carrier-Grade-NAT so this could mess things up.

Thanks for your reply!

Re: DataBorg – Knowledge Management Simplified

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Post by mchusma »

yamalight wrote: post #11
number6 wrote: post #8

If I use the second prompt: "Try our Text To Knowledge Graph API" You have made too many requests. Please login or try again in ~10 seconds. I am Rate limited; maybe implement a cooldown on the submit button or something — feels a bit unfriendly on a landingpage

Hi, CTO of DataBorg here. Thanks for trying it out! And apologies for the mess - we weren't quite ready to go public just yet :) Current rate-limiting is IP based, so it might be your shared IP public address messing things up. The next update we're rolling out over the next few days should make it less aggressive. If you login with your github / email - you should be able to try thing out without rate-limiting issue…

Just noting the same thing here for me, I tried looking at an example and it failed with this error. I think I would not even hit the API for the examples, just show it. My 2 cents.

Re: DataBorg – Knowledge Management Simplified

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Post by yamalight »

always2slow wrote: post #25

Is this built off of https://huggingface.co/Babelscape/rebel-large ? It's shared under cc-by-nc-sa-4.0 Doesn't nc stand for non-commercial? "Non commercial share alike - Redistribute, revise, remix using the same license as the original for non commercial use only". Looks like you're in violation of this license.

We have our own custom datasets, models and code we've used to train them. REBEL can be considered "prior art" though :)

Re: DataBorg – Knowledge Management Simplified

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Post by yamalight »

mchusma wrote: post #32
yamalight wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, CTO of DataBorg here. Thanks for trying it out! And apologies for the mess - we weren't quite ready to go public just yet :) Current rate-limiting is IP based, so it might be your shared IP public address messing things up. The next update we're rolling out over the next few days should make it less aggressive. If you login with your github / email - you should be able to try thing out without rate-limiting issue…

Just noting the same thing here for me, I tried looking at an example and it failed with this error. I think I would not even hit the API for the examples, just show it. My 2 cents.

Thanks for feedback! I'll indeed be adjusting examples to always return results as was suggested here.

Re: DataBorg – Knowledge Management Simplified

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Post by yamalight »

always2slow wrote: post #30
detaro wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how do you identify that it might be built off that?

They forked it on their github which is linked from their landing page: https://github.com/orgs/DataBorg/repositories edit: also https://github.com/DataBorg/wikineural which has a non-commercial license as well. Does HN like to see this kind of discussion here?

Same with Wikineural - it's a great project, but falls under "prior art". We have our own custom datasets / models / code for NER as well.

Re: DataBorg – Knowledge Management Simplified

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Post by always2slow »

yamalight wrote: post #36
always2slow wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They forked it on their github which is linked from their landing page: https://github.com/orgs/DataBorg/repositories edit: also https://github.com/DataBorg/wikineural which has a non-commercial license as well. Does HN like to see this kind of discussion here?

Same with Wikineural - it's a great project, but falls under "prior art". We have our own custom datasets / models / code for NER as well.

Prove it.

Edit: to be clear i'm not buying this for a second. Your 1st demo produces the exact same output as Babelscape/wikineural-multilingual-ner demo. If you built off of their model you need to abide by their license of non-commercial use and share-alike. I think you're a bad actor and I can't believe HN is leaving this up. Your company name also has negative implications: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg

Re: DataBorg – Knowledge Management Simplified

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Post by yamalight »

always2slow wrote: post #37
yamalight wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same with Wikineural - it's a great project, but falls under "prior art". We have our own custom datasets / models / code for NER as well.

Prove it. Edit: to be clear i'm not buying this for a second. Your 1st demo produces the exact same output as Babelscape/wikineural-multilingual-ner demo. If you built off of their model you need to abide by their license of non-commercial use and share-alike. I think you're a bad actor and I can't believe HN is leaving this up. Your company name also has negative implications: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg

So, er, how exactly would I prove it? Do you want me to share our code / db / etc we've worked on for past ~two years? :)

For one - how many wikidata classes exactly do you get from Wikineural? If I remember correctly, it can do four (person, location, organization, other). Our models do several thousands.

It'll likely annotate similar things in text since our model is also transformers-based (which is basically current state of art) - can't really do anything about that.

edit: phrasing.

Re: DataBorg – Knowledge Management Simplified

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Post by always2slow »

yamalight wrote: post #38
always2slow wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prove it. Edit: to be clear i'm not buying this for a second. Your 1st demo produces the exact same output as Babelscape/wikineural-multilingual-ner demo. If you built off of their model you need to abide by their license of non-commercial use and share-alike. I think you're a bad actor and I can't believe HN is leaving this up. Your company name also has negative implications: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg

So, er, how exactly would I prove it? Do you want me to share our code / db / etc we've worked on for past ~two years? :) For one - how many wikidata classes exactly do you get from Wikineural? If I remember correctly, it can do four (person, location, organization, other). Our models do several thousands. It'll likely annotate similar things in text since our model is also transformers-based (which is basically curr…

Yes? I think my stance is very clear. It appears that you have forked some opensource models and built proprietary software off of them which you are now trying to profit, against their licenses.

Re: DataBorg – Knowledge Management Simplified

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Post by yawnxyz »

yamalight wrote: post #6
yawnxyz wrote: post #3

This looks super neat and incredibly useful, but the pricing is an absolute non-starter. I'll definitely use more than the free tier, and the next paid tier is 3000 API requests for $300 per MONTH? Am I alone in thinking this is way too expensive? "$300 per month for small projects" makes me feel like I'm extra poor or something.

Hi, CTO of DataBorg here. Thanks for trying it out! We weren't quite ready to announce it to public just yet :) But hey, can't do much about it now. Pricing is still a placeholder basically. We want to be in line with industry (which is generally ~0.001$ per 1000 characters), so the final tiers would look something like this: Free - 3,000 credits Hobby - 50,000 credits / 49$ Pro - 300,000 credits / 299$ Business - 5,…

Ooo that pricing is much better for indie hacking, thanks for explaining!
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