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The Unmagicking of Disney

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Re: The Unmagicking of Disney

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I learned something and enjoyed this to boot. Excellently written with a sharp writing style and incisive comments. It's quite a trick to make a children's movie that pleases everybody or at least doesn't turn off some group too hard. There's such a wide range of views about what's appropriate for children that I'd think it would darn near impossible.

Re: The Unmagicking of Disney

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As a millennial who grew up watching the great Disney movies of the 90s, I just pretend the remakes don't exist. Disney (classic Disney-Princess-Disney, excluding Pixar, Marvel, and all the "properties" they've acquired over the years) has made a great movie once every 3-8 years for the past few decades. In between, they've always made utter garbage to squeeze every dollar out of the great ones. Almost every Disney s…

Disney used to have an official Crap Sequels Division: DisneyToons. Wikipedia has a list of their direct-to-DVD movies, which could usually found at the bargain bin near the checkout counter.[1] When Disney acquired Pixar in 2006, somehow John Lassiter ended up in charge of Disneytoons. He didn't like running the crap sequels business. After a decade of cancellations and missteps, DisneyToons was shut down in 2018 and the animators were laid off.

Disneytoons movies only cost about $15M to make and usually made over $100M.

Dumbo (2019) was not a Disneytoons movie. It cost $170 million to make. The problem Disney now faces is that classic low-end animation won't sell, and photorealistic with live action is very expensive to produce. So they now lack a low-end product line.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneytoon_Studios

Re: The Unmagicking of Disney

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post #2

Wow, this certainly has a… distinctive… turn of phrase. And I think makes several fair points. I’m low-key disappointed they said “Ant-Mans” and not “Ants-Man”, though. ;)

No, I think Ant-mans and Captains America is correct. Ants-man would be that thing from Rick and Morty.

Ant-Men?

Re: The Unmagicking of Disney

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post #18

As a millennial who grew up watching the great Disney movies of the 90s, I just pretend the remakes don't exist. Disney (classic Disney-Princess-Disney, excluding Pixar, Marvel, and all the "properties" they've acquired over the years) has made a great movie once every 3-8 years for the past few decades. In between, they've always made utter garbage to squeeze every dollar out of the great ones. Almost every Disney s…

> I just pretend the remakes don't exist. This great advice whenever a piece of media is making you angry. We’re probably justified in being angry at these soulless assembly line remakes, but spending your time and energy complaining does no one any good.

If one of my friends tells me that a remake is crap, don't watch it. I trust them. I still have not seen the sequels to the Matrix.

Re: The Unmagicking of Disney

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Unfortunately, I feel like Disney has also been unmagicking Pixar. I used to be so excited for each new Pixar movie and felt like Pixar could do no wrong (I’m a weirdo who even liked Cars 2), but the last couple of years have been lackluster from my perspective.

Re: The Unmagicking of Disney

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post #32

As a millennial who grew up watching the great Disney movies of the 90s, I just pretend the remakes don't exist. Disney (classic Disney-Princess-Disney, excluding Pixar, Marvel, and all the "properties" they've acquired over the years) has made a great movie once every 3-8 years for the past few decades. In between, they've always made utter garbage to squeeze every dollar out of the great ones. Almost every Disney s…

Disney used to have an official Crap Sequels Division: DisneyToons. Wikipedia has a list of their direct-to-DVD movies, which could usually found at the bargain bin near the checkout counter.[1] When Disney acquired Pixar in 2006, somehow John Lassiter ended up in charge of Disneytoons. He didn't like running the crap sequels business. After a decade of cancellations and missteps, DisneyToons was shut down in 2018 an…

I would buy classic low-end animation if it was a good story! I assumed that was what was too expensive to produce. Hand-drawn.

Re: The Unmagicking of Disney

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As a millennial who grew up watching the great Disney movies of the 90s, I just pretend the remakes don't exist. Disney (classic Disney-Princess-Disney, excluding Pixar, Marvel, and all the "properties" they've acquired over the years) has made a great movie once every 3-8 years for the past few decades. In between, they've always made utter garbage to squeeze every dollar out of the great ones. Almost every Disney s…

We watched Moana recently. The animation, and story were absolutely lovely! The songs on the other hand were boring.

Re: The Unmagicking of Disney

#38

Unfortunately, I feel like Disney has also been unmagicking Pixar. I used to be so excited for each new Pixar movie and felt like Pixar could do no wrong (I’m a weirdo who even liked Cars 2), but the last couple of years have been lackluster from my perspective.

Not sure what the "last few years" mean to you. Personally I got to see Pixar's movies in the cinema all the way back since Toy Story. They certainly had an incredible run for about 15 years. Up is the last "Pixar classic" in my view.

However in recent years they actually did have a couple of truly wonderful titles. Luca and Soul are pretty good, and Coco is really one of the best Pixar movies. So perhaps not all hope is lost.

Re: The Unmagicking of Disney

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post #24

As a millennial who grew up watching the great Disney movies of the 90s, I just pretend the remakes don't exist. Disney (classic Disney-Princess-Disney, excluding Pixar, Marvel, and all the "properties" they've acquired over the years) has made a great movie once every 3-8 years for the past few decades. In between, they've always made utter garbage to squeeze every dollar out of the great ones. Almost every Disney s…

> They're still making good ones: Frozen, Moana, Encanto. Just watch those and pretend the rest doesn't exist. Probably the most objective way to view this is to actually look at the list of films from any given decade and see how many flops they had [1]. There's a bias at play here: the only movies we remember Disney making a decade+ ago are the hits. We don't often remember the misses. Apparently Disney's "Renaissa…

Big Hero 6

Re: The Unmagicking of Disney

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Unfortunately, I feel like Disney has also been unmagicking Pixar. I used to be so excited for each new Pixar movie and felt like Pixar could do no wrong (I’m a weirdo who even liked Cars 2), but the last couple of years have been lackluster from my perspective.

Obviously, art is subjective and my opinion is no more valid than yours… but man, I cannot fathom how you could like Cars 2 more than Coco, Luca, Soul or Turning Red.
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