As a web application and zoomer myself, I haven’t the faintest idea what this article is talking about.
Wow, a web application posting to Hacker News. What tech stack are you implemented in?
Get in zoomer, we're saving React
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Re: Get in zoomer, we're saving React
#32> Crucially, none of the React alternatives solve this FFS. The context is the web, nobody solves graphic problem like gaming for you, or need to. At this point it doesn't matter because HTML/DOM stuff is not going to suffice what you are talking about either. I honestly think after reading 50% of the article is all about bragging knowing history. I'm not old but I was there too. WIN32, MFC, QT, 8086 assembly whateve…
>I'm not sure what's the point of React here nor "Saving React". Why it needs to be saved in which sense.
I read it as “svelte et al gain traction due to inferior younglings, therefore react is a sinking ship, let’s not let it sink because the tooling I use is the adequate choice (despite having to be saved)”
Re: Get in zoomer, we're saving React
#33The fancy spotlight rays thing going on in the background is crazy distracting.
Ended up disabling Javascript on the site to make it readable (ironic I know)
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#34It's not like react messaging can be used with Emacs..
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#35This post ultimately seems to spend a long time complaining about other people not putting in the effort to fix the problems of React... while the author doesn't offer any solutions or even ideas for solutions. Also, the author makes repeated digs at React 18's concurrent mode work while at the same time complaining about the kind of stuff concurrent mode is supposed to fix (for example, React updates not happening f…
As soon as I saw, "you should listen to your elders" being used as a reason to read this article, i knew it wouldn't be high quality
That's a pretty inexperienced take, out of context. People should absolutely learn from elders, even if they feel the elders are wrong. Which is pretty much, every young person who has ever existed. There are often nuggets of wisdom buried inside resistance to change.
I often wonder how much further along we'd be as a society if we didn't spend the first couple decades thinking we know everything. Myself included.
Re: Get in zoomer, we're saving React
#36> Crucially, none of the React alternatives solve this FFS. The context is the web, nobody solves graphic problem like gaming for you, or need to. At this point it doesn't matter because HTML/DOM stuff is not going to suffice what you are talking about either. I honestly think after reading 50% of the article is all about bragging knowing history. I'm not old but I was there too. WIN32, MFC, QT, 8086 assembly whateve…
Yeah, I stopped halfway through the article.
Don’t talk down and condescend to your audience for no reason
I think the article should be rewritten and all the ranting removed
It’s also difficult to follow where the author‘s going with all the side rants and unrelated remarks
And yes, that is considered ranting, contrary to what the author claims in the beginning of the article
Re: Get in zoomer, we're saving React
#37>A templating language is mainly an inner platform effect. It targets a weird imagined archetype of someone who isn't allergic to code, but somehow isn't smart enough to work in a genuine programming language. In
Strange sentiment. Isn't React templating as well? Besides one of the most famous use of templates is macros (in C as well as other languages). Would people who generate code be allergic to coding?
Re: Get in zoomer, we're saving React
#38> Crucially, none of the React alternatives solve this FFS. The context is the web, nobody solves graphic problem like gaming for you, or need to. At this point it doesn't matter because HTML/DOM stuff is not going to suffice what you are talking about either. I honestly think after reading 50% of the article is all about bragging knowing history. I'm not old but I was there too. WIN32, MFC, QT, 8086 assembly whateve…
> I honestly think after reading 50% of the article is all about bragging knowing history.
This is why I can't read most tech articles these days. Won't get to the point without a long detour into the background of the problem; as someone in my forties, it's hard to justify the expense.
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#39This article is weird linking together many unrelated strands of thought.
Like linking reactive programming to “reactive” UIs, when really they mean UIs that are forgiving to their users instead of breaking down.
Or how by coding on the web we’ve lost the immediacy of a UI that runs on our desktop, and the primitives (like undo/redo stacks) that make desktop user interfaces friendlier, at least without having to build them ourselves.
And that new UI frameworks show up claiming to solve the problems that React creates with complexity, by forgoing the functionality that React provides that they pretend is unimportant by hiding behind toy examples.
There’s actually not much in this article that doesn’t resonate with a jaded millenial like myself who knows their computer history, but could have been expressed more cohesively.
Re: Get in zoomer, we're saving React
#40>A templating language is mainly an inner platform effect. It targets a weird imagined archetype of someone who isn't allergic to code, but somehow isn't smart enough to work in a genuine programming language. In Strange sentiment. Isn't React templating as well? Besides one of the most famous use of templates is macros (in C as well as other languages). Would people who generate code be allergic to coding?
> Isn't React templating as well?
Nope! You can make React apps with just a plain ol' JS file (and doing so is frankly instructive). Most folk add in JSX for extra syntactic sugar tho, so the confusion with templating is understandable.