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US judge orders hundreds of sites "de-indexed" from Google, Facebook

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Re: US judge orders hundreds of sites "de-indexed" from Google, Facebook

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Post by electromagnetic »

OstiaAntica wrote: post #21
electromagnetic wrote: post #12

I'm waiting for the day that a 15 year old files a patent on a new style of Capri's and ends up owning Levi, Wrangler, etc. for selling counterfeit products. Oh wait, that would never happen. (Incidentally in about 98, before capri's got fashionable again, my friend took to folding and stitching her jeans, in a few weeks all the girls were doing it throughout the summer; about 4 years later she was pissed when Levi a…

You can't copyright or trademark a fashion pattern, like your friend's jeans. Fake products using a trademarked name is a different matter-- they are of inferior quality, and widespread distribution seriously damages the legitimate brand.

Yes, the name ripping is their right to enforce, however the big brands also prevent knockoffs and imitations from being sold in major stores for threat of pulling everything with their name on it if the store stocks similar-look products.

Re: US judge orders hundreds of sites "de-indexed" from Google, Facebook

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Post by JonnieCache »

danilocampos wrote: post #9

Look. I know it's HN and we're all very serious business here. And I'm not trying to be age-ist – my condemnation is strictly confined to mental state. But what. the fuck . do we do with these dinosaurs who know nothing of technology policy but have decided to go and make it anyway ? What do we do? The strategy of waiting for them to retire or whatever doesn't seem to be paying off.

We need to invent the following things so we can be forever truly free:

1) A secure, peer to peer DNS system with no registrars and a dynamic, heterarchical network of trust.

2) An encrypted version of TCP that we can drop in without anyone noticing.

3) A way of distributing keys for our encrypted transport layer without certificate authorities and again with a dynamic, heterarchical network of trust.

4) A secure, peer to peer, federated social network with all the features that we and the rest of the world want and need.

Then we will at least have some breathing space while we work on that whole planetwide wifi mesh thing.

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Post by stfu »

mindstab wrote: post #7

Is there really infrastructure available for this yet? Also "All Internet search engines"... Possibly the judge underestimates how many there are out there who will never even hear of this ruling without horrible SOPA legislature and infrastructure in place. Till then they can't seriously expect random search engine in my bedroom to track all legal rulings in this space. This is fantastically impossible. And it raise…

Does anyone know how this is handled at Google with their different data centers i.e. are the sites going to be indexed in the UK version?

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Post by kstenerud »

dsplittgerber wrote: post #29

Not to be overly political, but: This is what you get when you support a modern liberal state. It's always going to over-extend and over-regulate, because that's just the way the bureaucracy works - it's preserving itself by always finding new areas of society and the economy that "just have to be regulated for the common good". It's a matter of basic principles, really. It's just never going to end unless you stand…

If it's only a liberal thing, then why was the bill submitted with bipartisan support?

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Post by andrewfelix »

Where's the oversight? Where's the appeal process? Who's deciding whether or not the evidence is solid enough to de-index a site? What about outlets that got dodgy handbags from their supplier amongst legitimate merhandise?

The precedent here is terrifying. They're shutting down entire businesses on some private dick's say so.

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Post by jakeonthemove »

"All search engines and social media sites" - hehe, I can imagine the dialog: - But your Honor, they're based in another country! - I don't care if they're from Florida, they will remove the site or else!

But seriously, the Judge may be just as tired of it as we are, and just made a quick ruling to please Chanel, at least for another month or so...

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Post by 1010100101 »

stellar678 wrote: post #11

How can a judge possibly be so daft as to put a judgement against companies not even party to the lawsuit? If we find out these counterfeit goods are also coming over from China, should we tell UPS and FedEx they can no longer fly planes out of there?

So should they still comply with the order? Why or why not?

Why not issue an injunction to US-based ISP's or even IXP's to filter the IP addresses these domains point to, or even whole address blocks? Do you think they would comply?

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